Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Axiom Legal

"Axiom Legal" is a temp agency masquerading as something new, so cool, and so different. But actually it's 10 times worse than any agency with the bullshit you have to put up with.

Axiom was started several years ago by a former Davis Polk associate who claimed to hate the legal business and who thought he could compete against them with "a new kind of firm". It was to be based in a loft office in Soho with all sorts of cool people. Like the Spiderman song, "Be yourself in a world that's crazy and cool". I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo Axiom!

Axiom said no more big law firm B.S. with the partners raking in big margins off associate work. They went to various big firm type clients like Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs to offer "the same service at a better price".

They then interviewed people, who had to fit their cool, mod-squad image. Any independent thinker or non-clone was definitely off-the-list. No they had to have a lot of artists and aspiring models.

Their key interviewer was Don Carlson, a smirk-face asshole from Harvard and Goldman. Kiss his prematurely bald-headed butt big time or you'll never get through the door!

Well lo and behold, Axiom brought in a private equity fund hedge fund to buy their shares a la Update.

While hyping themselves as something so trendy and insisting how they are not a temp agency, that's all they are, as they now gigglingly admit.

If you love kissing ass and love working in a Soho loft with a bunch of loser wannabes, then Axiom is the place for you!

120 comments:

Anonymous said...

Most models and actors end up cleaning my table when I am done eating...NEXT...

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this info, Tom.
It's good to be able to get this type of inside info. from this site. I had never heard of Axiom before -- and I doubt they will ever hear from me but it's still good to know what's out there.

Anonymous said...

Actors can be a little flaky, but models are a definite plus. We love to present candidates with sharp minds and bodies to our elite law firm clients.

Recruiter said...

Woops, silly me. Forget to sign in.

Actors can be a little flaky, but models are a definite plus. We love to present candidates with sharp minds and bodies to our elite law firm clients.

Dave Moss said...

"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"

Anonymous said...

11:41 A.M.

Shut the fuck up, you stupid cunt.

Anonymous said...

I worked with a model once. She was very pretty, tall and lithe. And very nice. I gave her a box to review. I came back five hours later and she had done one doc. and then fainted from hunger.

She was so pretty. So I gave her an easier box and came back ten hours later. One was done. she had again passed out from hunger and her chair smelled of vomit.

It was very sad. I miss her. She was so pretty ....and so nice.

Anonymous said...

I concur with 11:42 & 11:45.

Anonymous said...

Since no attorneys actually work out of the Soho office of Axiom, it's pretty clear that you know nothing about Axiom.

Better Coder said...

I've been called by Axiom, repeatedly, over the past couple of years to perform work for their clients, however, I had to turn them down.

I feel they run a class operation.

Best,
Better Coder
www.bettercoderthanyou.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

Ugly people always like to hire beautiful people.

I don't have that problem. I like to hire people who will actually do the work.

Because in order to get beauty, I only have to look in the mirror.

Elite Law Firm Partner

Anonymous said...

Better Coder, shut the fuck up...you faggoty, Buddy Holly looking tool.

Anonymous said...

Its funny about "Axiom". I once a ran a legal links page. I had a category for temp agencies. I listed Axiom. The listings were free.

But, some cunt from thei office e-mailed me to take down their, because they "aren't a temp agency".

So yeah, they are just another group of self-aggradizing clowns. I would imagine they will be among the first agencies to go belly up. These trendy, financial services catering shops are in big trouble.

But don't you dare call them a temp agency, heh heh.

Anonymous said...

Same shit offered under a different platter cover. Salesman rails against the killer hours, the inefficiencies, the oppressive nature of it all, and tries to sell a message of populism to the legal underclasses. Salesman lands a client or two, gets seduced by the big bucks, gets bought out by a hedge fund and comfortably retires. Abandoned agency with snippy college girls on commission gets added to the dung heap of crappy, low life agencies.

Anonymous said...

It's the nature of the temp industry that this happens.

Temps are way too easy to replace (except for certain foreing langauge ones). Anyone can learn how to code documents (that probably aren't read anyway) in say a week. Learning how to any other type of legal work requires about six months if you're smart, but then you become very valuable to the firm. The only thing a temp has to be able to do is sit in one place for long hours doing dull work.

Better Coder said...

Hey all,

Thought I'd let you know that I am coming up on Hour 19 for the week.

Very Truly Yours,
Better Coder
www.bettercoderthanyou.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

Dear Better Coder,

Can I be you?

Thanks,

Grand Ayatollah Ali Hakim al-Beheshti

Anonymous said...

Every lawyer is easy to replace. With law schools opening on every corner and outsourcing picking up speed, expect it to get only worse.

Anonymous said...

Ya sure, you betcha lawyers are hard ta replace.

That's why associates generally last about 2 yrs and big firms routinely hire law student summer associates to replace them.

90% of all law is cut n past,slamchop monkey work.

Attys are a dime o' dozen, especially now that they are being canned left and right.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Whatever.

I don't know what kind of firm you've been working at, but most legal work is not "cut n past,slamchop monkey work." It requires an intelligent analysis of the facts.

Also most attorneys lateral at 2-3 years because they get a better offer.

And no, experienced competent lawyers are not easy to replace. In fact if you've ever had to hire someone, you'd find it's very difficult to find someone that can do a decent job.

On the other hand, an attorney who has been clicking away on docs in front of a computer for x number of years, is easy to replace. This is why the temp agencies can take advantage of you.

Anonymous said...

hey bc,
Bro your gonna get f'd up tonight

Anonymous said...

"Also most attorneys lateral at 2-3 years because they get a better offer"

Riiiiiight. You are full beans. Let me guess, you're a dipshit first year.
You are just ignorant. Most associates burn out in 2 or 3 years when they realize they are never going to do more than slapchop.

Go back to TLS, lemming.

Anonymous said...

That's a bunch of BS.

What do you think happens after 3 years, all the attorneys decide to temp?

Hell no. They jump from mid/small law to solo/gov/Biglaw or Biglaw to mid/small/solo/gov/in-house counsel.

And some don't burn out. They hang around and make large amounts of $$$.

Despite what you may think, most attorneys are not temping.

Anonymous said...

The downside of this economic downturn is I don't have that many low-level salesgirls begging me to hire their people.
I used to love making them beg.

Elite Law Firm Partnet

p.s. God, I am one big swinging dick.

Anonymous said...

These days it's more "slapchop you're fired" or wait until 2010 before we bring you on.

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but haven't you noticed how bad the economy is? There are temp projects *specifically requesting* former biglaw associates.
You seem to be grossly out of touch with the current marketplace.

Anonymous said...

3:39 - Most don't jump from mid/small law to solo/gov/Biglaw or Biglaw to mid/small/solo/gov/in-house counsel. They leave the law. Check the statistics. More than half leave, and that is pathetic.

Trollop said...

TTT's (or whoever sent the post) right, "new" bullshit companies are always the same old same old behind a bunch of air.

Why do the posts have to go over the same old things from there?

BetterCoder needs to find new material or go away. Same for Recruiter. First week, funny. Same old same old after that, annoying.

TTT, when will the book be published?

Anonymous said...

New York and California have more lawyers than the rest of the world combined. 300 billion (25% of all law loans) are either in deferment, default, or forbearance.

Anonymous said...

25% of all law loans

It's probably the same in the medical profession. Or even worse for other degrees. MA or Ph.D history for example.

Anonymous said...

3:46 SAID "BetterCoder needs to find new material or go away. Same for Recruiter. First week, funny. Same old same old after that, annoying. "

You are too kind. I NEVER found them funny. LAAAAAAAAAAME

Fuggedabouit!!!

Friend said...

I can't speak to Axiom's activities in staffing large projects, but several lawyers I know they have provided individually to address specialized needs have been capable, reliable and professional.

Recruiter said...

4:25- My temporary legal staffing sister professionals and I are always glad to help.

Anonymous said...

Better Coder, I see that Update Legal is one of your two twitter followers. Nice fan base.

laid off diary said...

The one thing BigLaw has taught me to do and do well is to lie through my teeth. I now use that skill every time I go on an interview with a temp agency.

Sure, I'd love to do document review ad nauseum at a fraction of the price I was doing it as a corporate attorney at my former law firm.

Sure, I'm available for work that is more boring than watching a fly masturbate and only slightly less painful than herpes.

Sure, I'm a hard worker and I'd love to put my well honed contract drafting skills learned as a corporate paper pusher and/or highly skilled legal writing abilities learned on law review to work using Summation and right clicking on little columns and then scrolling down to "responsive" or "not responsive."

Awesome.

-putting my (lying) skills to good use

www.lawshucks.com/laidoffdiary

Anonymous said...

Allow me to make a few things clear.

Many of you have railed against the staff attorneys at major firms -- that they are stupid and ghetto and that perfectly decent people don't get hired while they do.

Yes, that is the point. I am sorry but many of you with good, solid degrees or with a nice, decent backgrounds will NOT put up with how we want to treat you.

But these people will. Some and just poor, others did not go to good schools. We know they will put up with anything.

You other halfway decent educated folks would run in a few months and we would have to train someone all over again.

The stench of desperation and mediocrity is what was are looking for .

Confident unexploitative people need not apply.

Thank you.

Elite Law Firm Partner

Anonymous said...

5:11 gee, you had to work at BigLaw to learn that????

Boy, that is basic to anyone job-hunting. Job hunting 101

Anonymous said...

3:39 is retarded (lol small law to biglaw...) and 5:11 is a flame.

Anonymous said...

Better Coder, you apparently are having much better luck than me. This year has been nothing short of dismal. During the first three months of this year, there was absolutely nothing. Lately, it has been a mad dash to secure one or two week projects with insane hours with no OT, and low pay. The emotional drain of having to secure and scrounge around for these short term gigs, which we often find ourselves jerked around on with delayed start dates is a lot too take. Despite all this, I have been able to make a dent in my student loans in over a year, and am actually adding debt to my credit cards every month and I am living a very spartan lifestyle. NYS is also going to mandate that I pay a $350 attorney registration fee in a few months. Lord knows where I am going to find the money to pay that.

Anonymous said...

I am not an attorney, but I have temped too. I feel your pain. I know that many of you do this to be able to do other things on the side and many of you come into it as good decent people.

But when you are treated the way you are you start turning into completely different people. I was also a nice person but with all the agency and law firm sodomization I became GHETTO myself.

Finally I got out of this business and I feel much better - and am back to being a civilized person.

I wish you all luck - and may God give you the strength to cope with agency pimps.

Anonymous said...

Law is a pathetic profession filled with insecure, class-conscious, status-obsessed idiots. I'm glad this economic crisis is causing it to implode.

In other words: You're all a bunch of stinking cunts. You're getting what you deserve.

Anonymous said...

May God give you the strength.....

Father Eamon

Anonymous said...

Fuggedaboutit !!!

Anonymous said...

Another way to make a living in this dying profession. Try to scrounge rent money out of other lawyers:


"Reply to: job-bqh6f-1225037566@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
Date: 2009-06-16, 6:36PM EDT


Real estate litigation, L&T law firm looking for an attorney that has a client base who needs support and a new home. We have a newly constructed law office with many upgrades and a corporate presence, and a large windowed office for you.

Describe your practice and your thoughts on a fair monetary arrangement for us."

Anonymous said...

Wow. Better Coder is a spin off. It's like Laverne & Shirley and Happy Days. Recruiter Girl, when are you going to get your own show?

beerguzzlingtemp said...

I haven't seen one ad for Wise or Axiom. I can't believe what Juristaff is offering. $22.00 and no overtime. Does anyone know what firm is generously hosting this desirable project? Maybe they are testing the waters and it is a gig that doesn't exist. Fuuuck.

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Better Coder said...

All,

Wow. Long day, but just had great dinner at Blue Hill. Tab was not friendly, though (my share about 275).

Best,
Better Coder
www.bettercoderthanyou.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

Better coder, I thought you ate at "Better Burger". Blue Hill is a little out of your league. Blowing a day's salary is hardly worth it.

I would advise to take that money and apply it to your law school loans. If you actually did this kind of work you would know that.

You are a just shallow cartoon characteer.

Happy small firm associate said...

Just finished a case in small claims court today.

Nothing like getting in front of a judge and arguing, except for arguing in front of a jury.

Heck, it's so much fun it's not even work. Beats the hell out of sorting docs. That's for sure.

To all you doc. review whiners about how bad small law firms are. Small firm work beats the hell out of dealing with some crummy temp agency.

Anonymous said...

I thought that Axiom only placed temporary attorneys for substantive work, not document review. I don't care for their smarmy ads or the smug douchebags on their webpage, and that schtick definitely deserves ridicule (especially since, as we all know, the legal profession has a way of deflating any pretensions to any "outside the box" thinking). But comparing them to agencies that staff doc reviews is comparing apples to oranges.

Anonymous said...

Where OOOO where has the Clovester gone, oooo where ooo wher has he gone? Big Mamma Big Mamma?

Anonymous said...

I want to F_ck Alex G......Oh Baby give it to me good, please!

Anonymous said...

Better Coder is gay and boring. You guys are not funny on this one. I want the real funny bloggers who entertain us with their plight against the likes of BIG MAMMMA, and such tyrants who steal out food, and bribe us with jobs, some for OTHER types pf JOBS.

Recruiter said...

"I want to F_ck Alex G......Oh Baby give it to me good, please!"

Disgraceful! I admit these supervisor analysts are a little rough around the edges, but they have been designated by the elite law firm client as your superiors and they deserve your respect! This client by the way helped save the entire global financial system last year and for that reason alone they are my hero. If I knew who you were, you definitely would be on my inactive non-preferred candidate list.

Anonymous said...

Chill, Recruits

Anonymous said...

Remember, I, Sir Misanthrope in an Iron Bathtub, actually amused a few folks, stirred some controversey in the process, and I outed the recruiter for being a fraud (the last is not a terribly impressive feat, I will admit). I also coined the nicknames Clovester, Cunty, Blackie Black, and others. Sadly, Wrinkled Shirts or Wrinkled Shirt Rudey (as in Rude manners) did not catch on like the others.
The problem with Recruiter, Coder and others is that, aside from being far from genuine, they just try too hard.

Anonymous said...

'Tis I, the Misanthrope in the Iron Bathtub again. I wanted to relate another anecdote about Wrinkled Shirts that someone told me. I can by no means certify the authenticity of this story other than stating it is what a trusted friend at the time told me he saw, and by stating that it seems to fit his character.
Word around the campfire had it that, one night something had to go out in the mail by midnight. Asshole came out with a manic look on his face, looking for someone to run to the post office to get it postmarked by midnight. Instead of politely, kindly if somone will do this errand, he says "Matt, you, I need you to run this to the post office, making sure it is postmarked ny midnight."
Such piggish behavior should inspire very dark, hateful feelings in ALL, tinged with homicidal mania--a longing to kill that can only barely be suppressed. I should only hope he is on the verge of being downsized. Think of the collective anger amd rage that his coworkers would feel for him.
Incidentally, I read another commentator state that he and Butta aka Cunty were in fact getting it on in the handicapped bathroom--the one featuring the "snot rocket hall of fame." While it was widely believed, bu not proven, there was a clandestine affair, I was unaware that it occured in the unisex bathroom. I would love to hear from that poster to learn more!

Anonymous said...

Simpson Thacher is holding widespread, unannounced layoffs at its New York City headquarters, causing considerable confusion and consternation for lawyers and staff there.
On Friday evening, Simpson Thacher cut between 10 and 20 staffers, targeting its document duplication staff. Monday morning, the firm fired a large, undisclosed number of receptionists.
More layoffs are expected today, and its unknown if attorneys will be affected.
Staffers are calling yesterday “Black Monday.” It seems the unannounced layoffs of the receptionists led to day-long chaos and confusion, as clients could not locate attorneys.

Anonymous said...

Blawgs are reporting that Cravath has been holding stealth layoffs of associates since December 2008, letting 25 lawyers go for “performance” reasons.

According to online sources, more layoffs are expected this month. Cravath has refused to comment.

Apparently this news is coming out because laid off associates are angry that Cravath will pay incoming 2009 associates $80,000 to defer to 2010.

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP is based in New York City, with an additional office in London. The second oldest firm in the US, Cravath was founded in 1819.

Dave Moss said...

"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"

Anonymous said...

Axiom is a temp agency ...period. They do have attorneys working in the Soho pad. Such a cool work environment. So many trendy places to eat nearby.

Axiom does do doc reviews and has had its own teams in their doing it. They're sleazy and will do anything for a buck.

If they were doing so well doubt they would have sold themselves to Grenhill & Co.

They're recruiters are just nastier versions of the Update bitches. Calling potential clients to try to shake the money tree.

Their owner loves to brag about the "fat margins" they charge. He laughs "Yeah we're not a temp agency, ....right!"

Mark think the whole world is stupid.

But they're smart enough to know a liar.

Anonymous said...

The Cravath associates and temps who thought they were speeeeeeeeeeeeeeecial now get unceremoniously dumped like shit on Eighth Avenue sidewalk. Like doggie-doo.

Wear your suit to the temp job, but you are still a piece of dog doo.

Anonymous said...

Go to Axiom's website.

You will see a bunch of assholes with smirks permanently on their faces.

Mark, Don, Alex - three king a-holes - didn't your mama tell you to WIPE THAT STUPID GRIN OFF YOUR FACE!

Now you permanently have a butt face.

Anonymous said...

Since no attorneys actually work out of the Soho office of Axiom, it's pretty clear that you know nothing about Axiom.

12:25 PM




ha ha ha Alec and Mark.
Nice try.

Anonymous said...

Axiom "people" (i.e. their cool clones) now are starting to ask people at other temp agencies how to get in on doc review. After acting like Axiom was the flavor of the month. Now, "help me get a job."

Anonymous said...

THE DOLLAR IS GOING TO COLLAPSE.

Then we won't have to worry about temping...

We won't have to worry about working at all.

Anonymous said...

The legal profession projects the competitive New York name-conscious high school behavior, into the future throughout lawyers' whole lives.

That's why associate programs at big firms are structured in classes and like schools.

Anonymous said...

Lunchtime is upon us!!!

Anonymous said...

May God give you the strength.....

Father Eamon

Anonymous said...

Law school deans: keep churning out thousands of lawyers per year. 200,000+ in California. 100,000+ in New York. No, it ain't enough.

Meanwhile the Nigerians can work here without the JD.

Anonymous said...

Fuggedabouit!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree. The Axiom business model has no viability in the current economic environment. Firms aren't interested in lifestyle alternatives, esp. when they have associates (fixed costs) sitting around doing nothing all day. You can't be an "artist" and expect to be given high end work . It ain't going to happen.

Anonymous said...

What did you have for lunch?

Recruiter said...

I had a half chicken salad sandwich and mineral water.

I remember bringing sandwiches down to my job candidates once a week. How times have changed.

Anonymous said...

Fuggedabouit!!!

Anonymous said...

That sounds lovely, was special ed. hard for you?

Anonymous said...

If you truly believe there are attorneys doing doc reviews for Axiom in Soho, your information is at least 3 years out of date.

Anonymous said...

We have been reporting on the saga of Clifford Chance’s US litigation practice. Group head Mark Kirsch jumped ship to Gibson Dunn, leaving the fates of 29 New York litigation associates in doubt.

Now the futures of those associates are coming into focus.

Seven associates are going to Gibson Dunn with Kirsch and partners Joel Cohen and Christopher Joralemon. Up to 10 associates will be laid off this week; the rest will remain on the New York litigation team, which will be headed by Juan Morillo of the DC office.

Clifford Chance LLP is the largest law firm in the world, both by number of lawyers and revenue, and part of the UK’s “Magic Circle” of leading law firms. It is a prestigious international practice with its principal office in London.

Anonymous said...

Fuggedabouit!!!

Better Coder said...

All,

A lot of you have been requesting (via email) that I comment. Sorry that I haven't. It's been a busy day.

Anyway, for those of you interested, I received a call from another agency today. Unfortunately, I had to turn them down.

Better Coder said...

All,

I was called about this ad,

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/lgl/1226686787.html

Entitled: PROMINENT MEN'S MAGAZINE SEEKING ATTRACTIVE UNEMPLOYED MEN FOR STORY (SOHO)

Unfortunately for the magazine, I had to turn them down.

Best,
Better (Looking) Coder
www.bettercoderthanyou.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

LAAAAAME!!

Anonymous said...

Boring.

Anonymous said...

Yawn...

Anonymous said...

Fuggedabouit!!!

Anonymous said...

ReFucks, stop restating ATL. You don't belong o that cite, let alone, make pathetic attempts to convey its content to the other bottom rotts. You are a loser....GET it LosFUCKIN"or The only bigger losers the tempos are fuckong Lit Analysts at Sullivan.

Anonymous said...

Axiom's business model NEVER worked.

They just had a lot of cash from Greenhill & Co.

Their owner Alec Gettel was quoted as saying their company was worth $31 million.

Duh!

Anonymous said...

Now Axiom is saying that they USED to do doc review three years ago.

More Axiom hair-splitting trying to show how different they are.

This is because they didn't get doc review jobs.

But the fact that the did do it - and lied about this - shows that they are just a temp agency.

Mark Harris smirk face. Mr. "I know better".

Anonymous said...

The Axiom people are 1,000 times worse than any Davis Polk partner - believe me!

They just wanted to be at the top of the pyramid raking in their fat fat margins.

And of course like Mark sitting on his ass all day.

Anonymous said...

Diluted gayass bloggers Get a fucking Clue

Anonymous said...

Right, Axiom didn't get doc review jobs because it didn't want any. Put its toe into the water and decided it didn't want to play in the muck. Only substantive work for qualified attorneys.

Anonymous said...

Do I sense Axiom trawling around here with its usual self-praise?

Phew, there's a bad smell coming from Spring Street.

Look at their puke website www.axiomlegal.com "The road less lawyered".

At least the other temp agencies don't have such ridiculous pretensions.

Anonymous said...

Where's the love?

If Axiom places temp lawyers and makes more money for both them and the lawyer by pretending they aren't a temp agency, what's the problem?

Dave Moss said...

"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"

Anonymous said...

The problem with Axiom is that they
-make you put up with a lot of their admin BS before and between jobs
-you have to be a clone of theirs
-they charge fat fat margins
-they tie you up in contract

Given that better people tend to apply to Axiom, Axiom actually uses the temp comparison to give LESS to their people than they could get in the market.

You see that's how their scam works.
They sucker people in by saying Hey man it's a better lifestyle with us.

Fuck Axiom!

Anonymous said...

The best word used above to describe Axiom the Temp Agency: smug.

Look at www.axiomlegal.com smug a-holes with grinning mugs.

Wipe that stupid grin off your face Harris and Gettel!

Now Axiom people are calling people at other temp agencies begging for doc review work.

Dave Moss said...

"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"

Anonymous said...

Fuck Dave Moss.

Dave Moss said...

"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"

Anonymous said...

Has anybody here ever gotten a job thru the HireCounsel office in Philly? They keep posting the same fake job postings again and again for jobs that don't exist. They are either so stupid or lazy or both that they cannot even be bothered to change the wording of their fake ads. It has been at least 1.5 years that the wording of their ads have not changed. HireCounsel in Philly is such a joke that they don't even have their own office; they rent office space in somebody else's office. And one of their recruiters, Denise, is so incredibly snide and rude. I would not hire her to clean my apt.

Anonymous said...

Can somebody please find "Recruiter" and punch her lights out?

Anonymous said...

HireCounsel IS a joke.

ICT said...

Job Search Tips

..Start your search early
..Consider continuing your studies
..Gain some experience
..Rethink your plans
..Focus in on the 'safe' areas
..Look further afield
..Use all the resources at your disposal
..Network
..Focus on your transferable skills
..Find yourself a mentor

New jobs are out there, we help you find them

Anonymous said...

"Focus in on the safe areas..."

That's what all lawyers do, and look where it ends them up.

Anonymous said...

Do any of you actually have experience with Axiom whether interviewing there or working there or hiring them? It seems like most of you have no idea what you're talking about (and I'm not an Axiom troll) - Axiom is quasi temp agency but they only hire mid to senior level attorneys with real experience, and place them on longer term projects as much as possible. It's an interesting model. I think it does translate to a temp agency model but a more stable one. And I am not sure about the whole "lifestyle" angle - some of their placements involve long hours during the week for many months, so it's only lifestyle if the placed attorney has the flexibility to just work or commute 12 hours per day all week then not work the weekend - I don't consider that lifestyle. But it IS an alternative type company. I don't know if it is or will be successful but at least it isn't the same old boring law firm concept with the insanely high overhead.

Anonymous said...

Axion is trawling in this website, predictably due to their image obsession.

Just go to www.axiomlegal.com to see how this temp agency is worse than any law firm in terms of mind control.

They have big overhead and charge very fat fat margins. Same as any law firm, except more B.S.

Anonymous said...

Axiom still cannot explain what it does except to promote an alternative lifestyle.

With all these "qualified substantive" lawyers flooded and jobless all over the street, what does Axiom do?

Nothing just another temp and placement agency for these unemployed huddled masses.

Anonymous said...

Why are Mark Harris and Alex Gettil of Axiom worse than any Davis Polk partner?

The Davis Polk partner at least rakes his big margin from being smart and contributing some knowledge to the associate's work.

In Axiom's case, they rake off a commission for contributing absolutely nothing substantive to the project or work.

Harris knows less than most temps and Gittel is not even an attorney.

So they make their big partner like margin for being a broker.

So Mr. Harris explain why your model is so much better for lawyers or for anyone other than your lazy self.

Anonymous said...

"I don't know if it is or will be successful but at least it isn't the same old boring law firm concept with the insanely high overhead."



Hi, Axiom!
Thanks for proving the author's point about your gimmickry.

Anonymous said...

This Axiom Temps sounds like a terrible place.
Person I know there keeps calling me looking for doc review jobs.

Anonymous said...

Some major Wall Street firms (or what's left of them) seem to be including temps & consultants under headcount to lower overall average comp numbers (see page C1 of Friday's Wall Street Journal). This might explain why such firms, like Goldman Suchs, recently outsourced a big chunk of their in-house legal departments to Axiom. These in-house counsel get thrown under the bus (with alluring Axiom promises of life "on the beach"), so that these firms can pay out record compensation to traders and the like and to also make such former in-house counsel more expendable.

Anonymous said...

I'm amazed at the vitriol on this blog.

I am guessing that a large set of folks go to law school for $$ and a little prestige (and nothing more). And a lot of these folks never grow in character through the tough passage of associate-land. They end up working for older versions of themselves: egotistical, money-grubbing folks of little nobility. They naturally resent the abuse, but fail to see themselves in the mirror of their bosses.

Hence, the vitriol

Anonymous said...

Axiom is another temp agency. I agree with one of the earlier comments about they contribute absolutely nothing for the final work product, do NOT offer a better lifestyle and deliver sub-standard offer packages to pad their bottom line profits. It is a very dark business model and sad for lawyers who must lower their standards to actually work for them. You are better off going to a real temp agency where they disclose the truth up front and you either take it or leave it. Axiom is not what it says it is-be careful.

Anonymous said...

fuck you all! and i mean that with love.

Anonymous said...

I heard the salaries they offer are almost insulting - especially to people who have agreed to work for them in the mid-west. I imagine they have a very high turnover rate.

Anonymous said...

HA someone told me that their friend, a 2011 Pace Law (Tier 4 law school) grad got a position with them without any significant experience. They get paid $25/h, which is sad- $25/hr?! and disturbing that a place like Axiom pretends to be something other than a sweatshop of contract lawyers.

Anonymous said...

I know this girl who went to Pace Law School and got her job through Axiom as a Temporary Paralegal at Bessemer Trust. Axiom is just another sweatshop- all she does is input data into Excel charts all day, what a joke.

Anonymous said...

My only knowledge of Axiom is that one of the attorneys that the firm holds out as having certain critical subject matter expertise is a know-nothing bimbo who got fired from my legal department for blowing a VP to get ahead and who took 6 tries to pass the bar. I don't know if her lack of legal talent is representative of all Axiom attorneys, but I'm never going to risk it to find out.

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