Above the Law almost imploded today with a stream of steady negative layoff news. As of noon, Dechert, Bryan Cave, Goodwin Procter have all axed dozens of associates. Apparently, more layoff news is on the way.
I am sorry to say that anyone who is expecting an uptick in the temporary document review market this year is going to be sorely disappointed. Not only do we have to compete with dozens of highly qualified out of work former associates, but the floodgates opened by the ABA Indian legal outsourcing opinion will continue to suck out of the country any last remaining remnants of legal scrap work.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 621 of 621It's funny how there are some people on this board who think that it's *impossible* that anyone coming here can be doing any kind of job other than temp doc review.
As soon as someone comes here and claims to actually work at a law firm, they are derided as liars.
I am the person who last night mentioned I work at a GOOD law firm. That was the adjective I used -- "good". (Go back and read my post.) I never said "big".
The law firm where I work has 16 lawyers. Hardly "biglaw". I wouldn't even want to work for a biglaw firm.
Also, I am doing a very specialized field of law and that's why I think it'll take a while to do a job search in DC.
But it really is a sign of complete, abject ignorance and stupidity to attack a person who posts here just because he/she claims to have any other employment situation except (1) being unemployed; or (2) doing doc review.
Can you not wrap your head around the fact that there is no rule set in concrete that ONLY temp doc reviewers will visit this board and post here?
You must have such a low, dismal idea of doc review that you probably think this blog is the legal equivalent of a toilet, and that no self-respecting lawyer who isn't a doc reviewer would ever deign to visit this site, much less post here.
Wrong!!! Believe it or not, there are some of us who are actually WORKING, and at decent jobs in decent firms, who actually want to leave those jobs for one reason or another, and who are considering doc review to keep financially solvent during an unknown number of months seeking a new job.
Why is that such a hard concept for people to understand???
Or maybe you are insanely, rabidly jealous of me and others who actually have permanent jobs with firms, so jealous that you have to deny it's even possible that we might post here, and so of course we must be lying about ourselves.
I see you haven't entered the real world of professional adults yet. You're still in some kind of juvenile world where the kids are trying to one-up each other in stupid pissing contests.
1149
What we don't believe is you. There is a difference between not specifically believing your story, and whether one can believe someone has found sucess. It has nothing to do with anyone else. The problem with posters such as yourself is your whole approach gives it away. The story is secondary to the put down. Your story has changed a couple of times.
12:30
Actually I don't care if you believe me or not. I just think it makes you look like a buffoon for saying so, because the risk to you is absolutely zero. You've exposed absolutely nothing about yourself, your work situation, your educational background, law school, bar status, work history or experience, nothing. Zip. Zero.
It's really easy to sit there and make comments which are "oh, so obvious" and try to convince everyone you're 100% cocky about what you think of me, and that it's so blazingly obvious that I'm a liar. It's really easy because you haven't said a thing about yourself.
Come on, I dare you to specify and tell us if you're working or not, what kind of crappy law school you attended, and what kind of shitty jobs you've done, or have any chance of getting. Are you temping now? Desperate for a temp doc review job? You haven't said jack shit about yourself!
Like I said, really easy to sit there like some cocky clown and denigrate someone else. Not so easy to be honest about yourself.
We know you wouldn't be here if you weren't a fake.
To put it another way, if your story were true, you wouldn't be spending your time posting here.
"Doc Review Tomorrow"
The docs will come back
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be work in Manhattan!
Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!
When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh, Hudson WILL call me back!
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!
Hell- I'm Indian (born/raised here), and I'm pissed off about the outsourcing as well.
But at least I have enough sense to take it out on ABA and greedy firms rather than innocent people in another country.
But, what else should I expect from my white Republican fat-assed 'Brothers'?
They're hardly innocent, they know they're stealing jobs from people 4 times as qualified as they are. An they aren't innocent if they know they can't READ THE FUCKING DOCUMENTS you moron. Fuck you.
Anon- 4:17-
Very intelligent response- as much as I hate outsourcing, with people like you in this field (that is, mush for brains), it's no wonder that firms are fed up and going elsewhere.
Why don't you go back to shooting alligators in the swamp? Or wearing those white sheets?
Oh, and as for the 'innocence' comment- let me ask you this.
If someone came over from China and offered you a cushy job in New York to do absolutely nothing, you would say no? Because you don't want to take away jobs from those "innocent Chinese people"? I doubt that, you fucking hypocrite.
11:42 sounds like you are pretty racist yourself.
7:47- Well, it's not usually the people of color who go off on other people of color- I'm just calling it like it is.
Actually what you are doing is saying it's fine for you to make derogatory remarks about people based upon the color of their skin, but wrong when someone does something similar to you. You complain of bigotry while practicing it yourself. You are judging people not as individuals but solely based upon their skin color. You stop thinking once you see a person's color. That makes you a racist.
Deport all foreigners. They're the ones who are sucking up all the jobs from us Americans.
Outlaw outsourcing. Make it a criminal offense to ship jobs from the U.S. to a foreign country.
End "free" trade ASAP and BRING BACK PROTECTIONISM!
Protectionism made this country great. Free trade has destroyed it!!!
1:17- It's America, you idiot. Everyone was a 'foreigner' at some point. I assume you mean get rid of anyone who's not white. Like, I said, go back to your sheets and cross burning.
1:09 , while 1:17 is an idiot, practice what you preach, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, etc. Don't be against people based upon the color of their skin without knowing a thing about them as individuals and then complain of racism.
1:17 and 1:09,
I was never a foreigner. I was born and raised in the U.S. and am unemployed due to "diversity," "affirmative action," and H1-B visa programs. Try going to a foreign country and finding a job. You won't be able to do it.
Only in the U.S. is citizenship worth NOTHING!
1:40-
What makes you think it's because of "Affirmative action" programs that you're unemployed? Maybe people just don't want to hire you because you've got an obnoxious attitude and it shows in interviews.
And for your information, it's not only white folks (you don't come out and say people of color in your post, but it's implied) who are unemployed. Most white people I know in the legal field are doing way better than their 'colored' counterparts in snagging jobs. Of course, you probably like that fact.
1:40,
In the interviews I've had, I was told that, even though I'm better qualified, the employers were going to hire a "diversity" candidate to comply with nondiscrimination laws. OF COURSE there's discrimination going on, you moron! Except that the people being discriminated against happen to be WHITE.
I'm sure that's just FINE with you!
7:04-
Sorry dude. You're full of bs-t.
to 7:04-
I find it a bit hard to believe that HR people or whoever interviewed you would actually say that. They're not stupid- there IS such a thing as discretion, IF- and that's a big if- what you're saying is true.
Personally, you sound kind of delusional to me. Maybe you should get some meds so you can act like a rational human being? I heard fish oil supplements work well too.
That story does sound really unlikely but affirmative action/diversity programs definitely are discriminatory. After all, they do exclude people based upon skin color. The people it excludes are not the ones who have committed any past job discrimination. They are job applicants who are totally excluded from those jobs because they were born with a certain skin color and for no other reason. That is discrimination.
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