"Tom---your website has served and shed light on the deporable and inhumane treatment some law firms and their agents give contract attorneys. In that spirit, let it be known that there is an awful staff attorney running the Yahoo matter at Skadden. Attorneys, please be aware that if you do go to work at Skadden you will be exposed to a tyrant and someone who has no respect nor regards for the dignity of others.
According to sources there, the environment he has created is one of fear and mistrust. He has dismissed scores of reviewers and people are just very afraid to come to work.
So, in the spirit of preemption, warn others not to come and work with this individual and to risk being blacklisted in this difficult economy."
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round and round it goes.... get the cash while it is on the table...
to the associates: make sure you keep that gig... it is tough out there in document review land..
So glad I turned down that job- it was thru Clutch, right?
Clutch is known for getting the shittiest, most half-assed Skadden gigs. Update and the other large agencies get the long-term, half-decent Skadden work, and Clutch picks up the scraps.
Rumor has it they jerk the coders around and send some home early, random layoffs, firings etc. Clutch has a VERY bad name in NYC already- they often advertise projects that never start, lie about hours and perks, etc. Avoid Clutch at all costs- they also try to outsource coding jobs to India
Clutch was voted # 1 agency in sending work overseas. Plus, the jobs that they maintain over here are absolute shit.
Appreciate the Clutch info
I don't think this job sounds so bad. What about the more elemental concerns? Does it smell like poopoo? Does the supervisor refuse to make the room comfy with air conditioning? Is the swanky, Honky-Tonk Chinese associate banging the slutty temp attorney? Is Anita making you sexually uncomfortable while you check her for moles?
poem please, Roach?
Wait, I'm confused.
Wait, I'm confused.
anita doesn't work for skadden does she?
The people at CLutch are very nice - what's your beef dude? what happend, you slacked off and got canned?
All of the recruiters are "nice" to your face. You have to learn to delve a little deeper in this business.
ANITA IS THAT STAFF ATTY.
Skadden read her awe-inspiring article on the temp atty industry and they lured her over with promises of cheeseburgers.
Big Laurie migrated with her as part of the deal but I am afraid she ate all the cheesburgers and now the temps are complaining, thus the posting.
Are there any half-way decent agencies left? I used to think Hudson was good, but now they've got us working in an unventillated sweat shop. Someone should drop a dime on them.
Golden Oldie:
Yesterday was another turbulent day at work. Anita informed us that we were not allowed to leave the floor, a.k.a. our crammed workspaces, without first signing out with her. This new rule will be strictly enforced (it applies even to those taking a two minute cigarette break) and anyone caught violating it will be fired on the spot. The Eunuch, meanwhile, stood nodding in agreement with the new resolution and kindly reminded us that we were still allowed to use the bathroom. He warned us, however, not to abuse the privilege and to spend as little time in there as possible.
Confusion ensued, however, when someone asked if this new rule applied to the use of the kitchen sink. Anita and the Eunuch appeared perplexed by the unexpected inquiry and told us that they would have to get back to us with the exact parameters of what constitutes a bathroom break.
Posted by helpme123 at 10:31 PM 24 comments
Has anyone had any problems getting paid by Clutch?
I don't know why this job is bad,
I have so many loans, all so sad!
I supposed to stay away from Yahoo
When I haven't even heard about a noxious doodoo.
Post this bastards name says 1:15,
Anita works for skadden, doesn't she?
Tom the Temp used to give entertaining details,
But now I'm wondering, 'what the hell'
Where are the indignities, the B.O., and the moles,
Down the Toilet this blog goes.
Thomas, it's time to hear you discuss the article of note,
Or are you now just an establishment joke?
Establishment joke.
Establishment joke.
Tubby Tommy Tempy's an
Establishment joke.
Leave Tom alone. Last night he let me engage in a threesome with his wife ANITA
Clutch or "crotch" legal, represents a new low in the NYC legal staffing marketplace.
UPDATE STRIKES AGAIN!
Update is up to its old tricks again, this time at Ropes and Gray. They promised a lot of hours, but once on the job, they told the temps that it would be forty hours for two weeks with overtime after that point. A bunch of temps saw through this charade and left because there is a lot of projects out there right now. Also, Update had the balls to ask the temps to take an hour lunch out of their eight hour day. Update continues to stick it to the temp. Do not believe them. If you want overtime now, leave for another project and do not wait for Update to screw you again in two weeks.
IndyMac is broke. I hope Skaggin goes broke too.
This staff attorney sounds awlful. He seems even worse than shit face Alex Gallard(o) at Sullivan and Cromwell. Is this guy having an affair with any of the temps yet?
how about a real, entertaining post?
7:35pm, I have always had good experiences working at Ropes & Gray. However, I stopped taking assignments from Update a long time ago. Is this assignment in the Boston or NYC office? I have heard very different opinions of the two locations. There does seem to be a lot more projects going on now than there were about a month ago. I am on a long term, but I keep getting called for new projects.
Ropes & Gray New York.
STB STB STB STB STB STB STB STB STB
STB does not stand for simpson thatcher barlet but
SAVE THIS BLOG!
9:02, why the hate? You must have a good story to share.
omg, who's anita? omg omg omg!!!
what kind of person who goes to work and does good work lives in a state of fear and mistrust?
ANITA is bigger than all of us. Literally, she is big. Although not as big as her sidekick, Big Laurie
Skadden Lawyers Among Those Headed to Senate Tax Evasion Hearing
The American Lawyer
Two Skadden partners are among the lawyers whose clients are scheduled to appear Thursday before a Senate subcommittee investigating whether and how some of America's wealthiest citizens hide billions of taxable income in illegal shelters abroad. The hearing stems from a DOJ investigation of Swiss banking giant UBS and a royal bank in Liechtenstein that allegedly have helped U.S. citizens hide taxable income for years.
I want to hear more about this Skadden Tyrant so I can avoid him. Please share all you know about this bastard.....and post his name. He needs to be blacklisted.
his name is Harry Schlong
Harry Schlong,
Harry Schlong,
Won't you come to bang the gong?
Tommy Tempy's goin' cwazy
Cuz he's awful slow n' lazy.
Why am I not getting any calls??
A couple of people have said that there are a lot of projects out there, yet no one is calling me.
I never complain or cause trouble on projects. I work hard and put in long hours...
Can anybody give me any tips on how to get all these calls. Is there something I should say to the agencies?
Thanks
Keep calling the agencies at least once a week. Persistence works. Eventually, you'll get something.
Harry (Harold K.) Wong (you called him 'schlong'--yucky) is rude to temps and will take offence at the slightest thing. He is definately the kind to be avoided. The fact that he is asian has nothing to do with his professionalism, and I don't like how Asian partners are singled out on this blog.
Everyone has been talking about the Asian partner who banged the slutty temp in the crowded project, and he is the one that needs to be blacklisted. That kind of opportunism and power exploitation marks the most insidious ideological framework behind the temp attorney/staffer and greed partner relationship.
Everyone, don't work for "Luong Dong!" He has no right to abuse his power.
It was not a partner who banged a temp on the Anita project. It was a lowly Chinese associate from the shit firm Kirkland & Ellis. The firm remooved him from Update's offsite location.
BEWARE OF THE TOWER LEGAL SWEATSHOP AT SKADDEN.
Beware of Tower, period. They lie just as bad as the rest of the agencies, but try to put on a 'chummy' front and claim they 'do things differently'. Don't trust them. Never drop your guard with them or any other agency!
Tower is run by fat Lisa who used to work at update. she is the rudest, nastiest, ugliest human alive. she was behind a lot that was bad at update - they are slightly better now - and now she is one of the principle in tower. she left because she wanted to have more control over temps than her limited role at update let her have. now that she is not on a leash she is showing just how disguisting she is. Of course, as these blogs go her name is not really lisa but something similar. stay away from her at all costs!
Her real name is Leslie Firtell. Her and her assistant Andy Limpus are evil, two-faced liars. Don't believe the hype they try to sell about Tower being 'different'. They get you to 'trust' them, then will turn on you in a heartbeat.
There is no honor or loyalty in this business. And some two-bit new agency like Tower isn't going to change that, regardless of what propaganda and chumminess they try to sell.
BEWARE!
Can you be a bit more specific about Tower?
Who expects loyalty? The jobs are TEMPORARY. Use it to your advantage. I was pissed because I only made $80,000 last year (I took too much advantage of the flexibility and made well below the $100,000 of the year before.)
Change your mindset. I feel like I am the boss because I don't have to give "loyalty" as chumps who go to the same office and cower like bitches. You will stop being a bitch the moment you decide to. They are the bitches, bitches. BEEAAATCH!
Tower is barely better than clutch. Same problems getting paid. I do think Andy Limpus and David King would make a cute couple, though.
Tower tries to get out of paying you, and will lie to your face about benefits. Specific enough for you?
Agreed, 10:52. No one should expect honor and loylaty in this business.
That being the case: strange as it may sound, I believe it's better to be spoken to and treated like a piece of garbage right off the bat, instead of being treated with false niceties and chumminess. At least you always know where you stand when you're treated like garbage from the get-go. The 'chumminess' tactics Tower uses lull you into a false sense of safety and trust, which makes it worse when the scumbags turn on you and reveal their true colors.
Tower has also received repeated, confirmed reports of sexual harassment by one of their temps, about which they did absolutely nothing. No investigation, no questioning, nothing. Probably because said temp is an African-American who hurls accusations of racism in every direction to protect himself from being called to task. Right, T.J.?
Tower is just afraid of opening a can of litigious worms. It's more expedient for them to ignore it all.
Another example of how Tower is just like all the rest of the scumbag agencies.
Hi Lesile
It is one thing not to expect a job to last because it is temporary but it is quite another thing not to act professionally and curteous.
This is what people like those at Tower dont know. Professionalism is the workplace is what has made America great. Unfortunately, too many do not even no where to beging when it comes to being professional.
Tower will go out of businss soon - it is run by very stupid people. Until, avoid them as they cannot be professional
I am really concerned about not getting paid. To think that you work hard and they don't pay at all!
11:32, I wouldn't worry about Tower going out of business--they have a fairly advantageous business model.
11:12,
What's wrong with the fake nicities? You can be just as fake nice to them. Fuck 'em. They're the bitches. Get paid. Keep your head down. Don't get caught up in all of the foolishness that people on here do--broken dreams, etc. Tom the Temp is the perfect example. He goes in, gets his job done, makes very little waves. Gets paid!
12:12 - what's so advantageous about Tower's business model?
Leslie really plays up her "Woman-owned Business" thing to the hilt.
You'd think a woman would be more sympathetic to confirmed accusations of sexual harassment of women on her project and take some action.
I guess being a "Woman-owned Business" is only something Leslie throws out there for propaganda purposes. When push comes to shove, Tower is the same as any "Man-owned" or "Transgendered owned" legal temp agency.
Leslie is a scumbag.
12:37
The cheap-ass labor
Hi Chris!
Hi Leslie!
Hi Leslie!
Hi Andy!
Hi Tobe!
Hi John
Hi Eileen
Hey, Laura, what's going on?
Not much. What about you?
Many failed business has "good business" models. It is really about the smarts and no one at Tower has any.
An Eileen and Leslie smackdown. I would pay to see that.
Is it simply coincidence that Tower's office is located at 65 Broadway?
Hi Chris!
I have also been called for several projects recently. Most of the ones I have been called for though have been short term. I am holding out on those projects in the hopes of something longer or something requiring Japanese or Korean Fluency. Are the firms outsourcing the foreign language reviews more these days? A couple of years ago it was no problem getting a long term assignment if you were fluent/native in another common language. You also get paid twice as much!
Chris rocks! Long Live Chris!!
anybody had eileeen?
I said hi already. How many times do I have to say it?
Chris
Leslie was the queen of blacklisting people at update so i am sure she does the same thing at tower
ANITA, ANITA, ANITA!
did someone say this blog was getting better? ever since I have been reading this blog it seems that there are no good agencies or if there are no one is coming forward to say which ones. I have an issue with the folks sayind they been blacklisted...I have sat next to many that blacklisting would not be enough for them. I suspect those are the trolls that give temps a bad name. Thanks to those that actually post items of interest on this blog. With posts like this, I think no will care that we are being outsourced. cheers
Roach Boy where are U? this blog is getting boring w/out U...come back RB
If what you say is true, it seems like all of the agencies do the same exact thing... why do you all stay if it is so bad? and i don't want to hear, I have bills, loans...starbucks pays well and offers benefits.just a thought.
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Roachie's back tell a friend, roachie's back, roachie's back, back again, roachie's back, raochie's back
Golden Oldie...please RB
Not all agencies are created equal. Agencies like EP Dine, Lexpollution , and to an increasing degree Hudson take bottom feeding to a whole other level. There are so many agencies, and registering with all the voluminous paperwork involved is a pain in the ass. I like sites like this. It provides a good overview of what characters to avoid.
I was on the Clutch Staffed Yahoo project. The name of the associate is Donny Low who proclaimed that he liked to "play dictator". He is a complete nut. He is a psychotic, woman hating, fag! Stear clear of this project and Clutch.
Hi Roach Girl.
Here I am! Want to get some drinks this weekend, perhaps liposuction?
JEREMY, THIS IS FOR THE TOWER SWEATSHOP, FYI.
Hi Jeremy,
Skadden's project
IMPORTANT NOTE:
The conflicts process has not been kind to us, several folks are conflicting out and as a result we are still looking for 5 more candidates for this project. If you know of anyone with Privilege experience (Kroll is a plus) please send them our way. We pay a $100 referral bonus if the person you refer works at least 250 hours.
Thanks,
Andy
Jeremy Crawford is an agency stoolie.
Hey Tobe - you should be clicking, not looking at Tom the Temp.
"Not all agencies are created equal. Agencies like EP Dine, Lexpollution , and to an increasing degree Hudson take bottom feeding to a whole other level. There are so many agencies, and registering with all the voluminous paperwork involved is a pain in the ass. I like sites like this. It provides a good overview of what characters to avoid."
So what you are saying is that you rely on the comments of anonymous post to determine where you are going to work? Sorry to burst your bubble sonny but this is not that kind of blog. this is a blog where agency trolls post negative stuff about eachother and make it look like temps are doing it. this is a blog where the truly unemployable who have been blacklisted by every agency in the city come to grieve. this is a blog where the racists, the bigots, the homophobs and haters come to make themselves feel better. trust me the decent contract attorneys who pass through this temping process are not posting on this site. they are working, earning a living and looking for a way out. make yourselves useful and find out why this country is outsourcing your work...write letters to the ABA to your senators about this - i have. organize yourselves and create a blog about the dirty little secrets the law schools hide. use your talents and energy in a productive way. you are not helping anybody on this blog, just making us look bad.
I WANT ROACH BOY TO COME AND OUT AND PLAY.
I want to play with Anita...on second thought, maybe not. Tom is already playing with Anita, I will have to wait my turn.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.why would anyone want to play with Anita.
knock knock
anita, is that you?
Beware of getting too friendly with Andy Limpus from Tower. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
Where there is smoke there is fire. I made a mistake (was desperate for cash at the time) and bit the bullet and worked at one of the places that is continually bashed on this forum. Of course the project wound up being an absolute circus. Many of the temps were crazy and unprofessional and the managers were disrespected despots. I now go out of my way to properly screen projects. I have more down time in between jobs, but it is well worth the loss of a few dollars in order to avoid winding up in an unprofessional environment. I subscribe to the theory that if you are surrounded by animals, you will eventually become an animal.
5:47 - great post! Thank you for your post. nice to see a normal person visits here once in a while.
I hear that a lot of agencies are doing really bad and are going to close shop soon. maybe things will get better for you then.
to 4:19 - you nailed it, and HIM perfectly! Well done. But I heard he had his power stripped...
ROACHIE where are you?
The Tower Skadden/Merrill Lynch project started out ok, but it has turned into a sweatshop, with people crammed on top of each other and inadequate facilities (bathrooms, pantry) for the number of people working there. Now they're trying to hire even more people.
The client tried to cut the hours to 45 per week, but a huge protest was made by the temps, with the threat of many leaving the project, and the hours were reinstated to 50.
However, the brave gentleman who acted as spokesman to Tower for the rest of the people on the project was fired by Tower. Said gentleman was encouraged by Andy Limpus to communicate about the situation. Others heard Andy solicit the gentleman's communication. He trusted Andy and communicated openly with him about the situation.
Tower claimed the guy was fired by the client (Skadden/Merrill) for poor work product, but said guy was continuously given special projects up until his last day, which doesn't evidence displeasure by the client with his work product. Tower fired him in retaliation for opening his mouth, after he was encouraged by Andy to do so.
Also, the details of his firing include the following:
1) His firing came right after the hours were reinstated to 50, and,
2) His firing came on the Friday before thirty more people started on the project the Monday after, which evidences that Tower waited until said gentleman's loss would not be a severe hit to their earnings.
Thus, Tower Legal committed a retaliatory discharge.
Everyone on the project who was there at the time (early June) knows it.
And so does Tower Legal.
PETTY TYRANTS
There are many petty tyrants populating this profession. This Harry Schlong Wong is even worse than his fellow petty tyrant, the shit face Alex Gallard(o).
Both men suffer from an unfortunate medical condition known as DSB (deadly sperm buildup). A small penis, when combined with DSB, leads to a foul disposition. DSB causes men to compensate for their inadequate lives by exercising improper and false authority.
It is a natural consequence of the disorder. Pity these men and not scorn them. They need to recite the serenity prayer as they are sick and suffering.
I'm on the same page as 5:47. The problem is that people become so comfortable with being kicked that they think of themselves as abused dogs. Pavlov's dog as temp attorneys (and associates because they do the same thing).
I don't blame the agencies for this. They are businesses. So, of course, they are going to exploit whatever they can, including your emotions, to make a profit. You can free yourself if you stop playing along to fear.
The crazy behavior is a byproduct of accepting the craziness as natural. The truly sad thing is people bitch because they accept these projects as "the truth."
I don't get as many projects, but I have been gotten better projects. My advice is first stop living in fear. Don't let any agency get the emotional upper hand over you. If a project is crap, smile, and then get on the phone with other agencies to find a better project, fake an illness or death in the family or whatever, and lead the bad project behind you. Nothing says change like a lot of temps leaving a project all at once.
There are so many agencies out there that you can game the system a little bit in your favor. If enough of you start doing this over time, you would see a marked difference. But, again, it requires you to stop acting out of fear. I really wish you would because it would increase the number of good projects for all of us.
7:48
FYI - agencies never fire temps, duh everybody knows that! as long as you are there and breathing...they will let you stay on because they just keep getting paid. law firms tell the agencies who they don't want fired from projects and that is when agencies blacklist.
cleary the brave gentleman is the one writing these post and can't deal with the fact that he got fired. I am sure he is was working hard and minding his own business when suddenly for no reason at all he got fired.
dude, some of us on this blog are complete dumbassess, but us a little credit we can see through your BS post. I have a buddy working on that project, I am going to ask him about you...if you are telling the truth then I will apologize but if not, am going to expose you because I am tired a-hole temps posting on this blog.
"because I am tired a-hole temps posting on this blog."
Hi, Andy Limp-penis.
Yeah, common the problem with 9:03's post is that it denies common sense. I don't know who posted that response , and it really doesn't matter. If you have common sense, don't be stupid enough to listen to b.s. If you aren't certain of what I mean by common sense- think how temp projects that you'be been on work and think about they wrote.
So I totally know who 7:48 is talking about. Actually he probably wrote the post. First, thank God he is off this project. I know that a lot of people complained about him. Okay, he is totally the annoying guy on every project that nobody wants to sit next to. He had a conspiracy for everything and a huge ego. All I can say is that everyone was happy when he got canned
He is telling the truth about the hours. A lot of us complained to Tower and they got the client to keep the hours.
As for the project, it is getting a bit crammped but the associates are nothing like the ones described on the Yahoo project. As for Tower, I have no issues with them. So far they have done right by me - this is my third project with them and I have always been paid on time.
Btw, I have also had a good experience Special Counsel.
9:36
I am a burnt out MOFO who is tired of listening to people complain and down outright lie on this blog. I might go postal soon, that would not be good common sense, oh well famous last words.
I want hear about Anita...wahhhhhhh.
I want to hear from the guy that was obessed with Julie Zuckerberg.
Boycott Tower!!!!!
This "Mr. Norma Rae" that stood up and demanded his hours back got what he deserved. Everyone knows that temp sheep that squeal get slaughtered. Hence, welcome to the wonderful world of anonymous after hours blogging.
I was about to register with Tower, but then I uncovered two critical facts:
a) The lady that runs the place used to work for Update.
b) Their offices are in 65 Broadway, a building that is still very much haunted IMO by the HHR/Dechert demons. That project and the case itself still gives me nightmares.
Enough said.
Tower of poop?
Who is the slutty temp attorney that the associate banged?
J.D. Monalot
She also goes by roach girl
Tower's "great business model" is what will lead the company to their demise and here is why.
Leslie is an angry feminist nazi - like all she is fat and ugly and gets no attention from men so she has a deep hatred of men and turned to femininism - and has bulit the company based around the idea that it is created by and caters to women.
Everyone knows the truth about women in the law. 99 out of 100 are not very bright and were admitted into law school because they have VAGINAS and somewhere along the way law schools thought that would be a good quality to have as a lawyer. (It is part of the destructive affirmative action agenda that places values on anything but intelligence).
So now the legal market is flooded with reality show watching, cosmo reading, daniel steele reading dumb bimbos, most of whom can never make it in a world of people far more intelligent.
Good night, Tower.
hell have no fury like a contract attorney scorned! we get it your angry. call another agency and find another job already.
who is anita
Boo-Hoo!!!!!
That's what you get for working for Tower. What did you expect from the likes of Eileen and Leslie? Also, anyone could tell just from looking at Andy that he is an underhanded slime ball. Live and learn!
9:48, you're a jerkoff.
The guy stood up for everyone on the project (including you) and got fired, and now you're going to slag him? YOU are now benefitting from him standing up for you regarding the cut in hours, and now you want to criticize him?
No one else had the balls to stand up for the temps in this situation. No one had the balls to stand up for themselves. And Andy Limpus did solicit opinions IN FRONT of several other people about the cut in hours, then fired him after the opinion was given via email.
(FYI - agencies WILL fire people in certain circumstances. It's rare, but a previous post gave you a couple of supporting reasons why Tower fired him. The most important of these was that they had 30 new people starting the Monday after, so it wasn't a big financial hit for them.) Make no mistake: Tower did the deed, telling Skadden this guy quit.
Agreed: it's best to keep your head down on these jobs. But it's pretty insidious when Andy Limpus acts in a manner that suggests he can be trusted, then turns around and fires a person who lets their guard down.
The guy who got fired didn't have a conspiracy for anything. You're thinking of someone else, someone who gets away with murder because he plays up racist conspiracies for everything. Skadden couldn't even move this guy's seat without him claiming "racism."
And the guy who got canned was well-liked by his co-workers.
It's just a temp job, yes. But the facts behind the firing were shameful on Tower's part.
Above was a response to 9:03, not 9:48. Apologies.
9:51 -
Hi Tobe!
Agencies fire people all the time. Their #1 priority is weeding out anyone who shows the slightest bit of malcontent. Whenever your recruiter swings by and asks how everything is going, I would suggest that that you smile and act perky even if you are working in a shit hole.
my penis hurts. does anyone have any penis cream?
I don't know what project you guys are talking about. Tower cut our hours from 50 to 45 so several of us walked off and took other gigs. I for one am in Newark. It's better for now, but I'll leave if and when they try to pull the same crap. I hope the rumors are correct, and soon Clutch and Tower will go the way of Barrasso. Hudson and Update are too big to go under right now, but down the road you never know. If Skadden doesn't know what Tower did to this temp, he should speak to Skadden directly. The agencies hate that, but the firms need to know that contracting others to do their dirty work won't protect them when someone dies in an overheated Hudson sweatshop!
12:46, great advice.
It's counter-intuitive: when someone encourages you to be at ease (like the agency people), it's only natural to be extremely tempted to let your guard down.
But, as you say, you SHOULD NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN WITH THE AGENCY PEOPLE.
They are, for the most part, paranoid petty tyrants. And the reality is that in the scheme of things, they're one step from the gutter where the temps dwell.
And the worst petty tyrants are always those who are one step above the gutter, because they can see and smell the gutter very clearly and know that it's possible for them to fall into it at any time.
SO BEWARE OF THE AGENCY PEOPLE!
1:09, Tower informed Skadden (and Merrill Lynch, which is the actual client), that the said individual quit. This has been confirmed.
But since it involves a lowly temp, no one at Skadden is going to pay attention or care; it's too much trouble. Same with Merrill Lynch, which is the actual client - Tower is contracted with Merrill, not Skadden. Merrill has much bigger probelms right now from the subprime meltdown to worry about a temp attorney's unfair treatment at the hands of Tower Legal.
Best that can be done is what is being done here: inform the temp community about the conduct of Tower, Leslie Firtell, and Andy Limpus, and let this information be on the temps' minds when they deal with them in the future.
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Anita.
Anita who?
Anita nother job because I just got canned by Tower
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Anita.
Anita who?
Anita nother job because I just got canned by Tower
True, 1:22, which is why I lamented that nothing will change until a lowly temp dies on the job in an ep dine or hudson sweat shop. Only then will a Skadden, which is the actual client here, not Merrill, take notice, when a zealous plaintiff's attorney starts trying to pierce the corporate veil looking for deeper pockets.
People die all over the place. Who cares if someone dies on the job. All workers should excuse themselves from work before death--as a matter of professionalism.
Golden Oldie, please
The misery will continue, eventually being outsourced to some slum in Mumbai. There is no real reason that a decent software cannot be invented that classifies and batch codes e-docs.
Firms just use doc review attorneys to pad their billables, plain and simple. Many associates have fast-tracked their partnership drives by managing highly profitable doc reviews.
Doc review will be entirely obsolete in 3-5 years and law firms will have to come up with a new scam to milk their clients.
I find it cute how tomatita has been posting anonymous...there are a couple of things that give you away tomatita. are you ready to comment on Anita's article yet?
Debevoise is employing contract attorneys directly like Paul Weiss and Sullivan. I hear a lot of firms are going this route and cutting the agencies out. The only thing is they will call you an analyst and categorize with legal assistants. I am considering applying. Any thoughts if this would be a good career move?
http://www.debevoise.com/workinghere/
Sure, why not? If you don't mind the work and accept your fate a second tier attorney/paralegal, it should be far better than a rent-a-monkey doc reviewer.
A job that provides insurance, retirement and CLEs will win over shitty temp asshole every time.
Go for it, you will be happy to be part of the team and out of temp day laborer mentality.
8:58 - wrong as usual you are just a complete moron, roach boy. Keep guessing, you're always wrong.
No wonder Anita shitcanned you, loser!
6:53, You miss my point. Of course, people die all the time. And as doc reviewers, no one would miss us. But, if a temp keels over in a 100+ degree, unventilated room. there could be ramifications from a law suit, OSHA, etc. I would love to see the Wachtell's of the world held accountable for the dirty work they have their Hudson's do!
The agencies are our pimps. We are the prostitutes.
seriously...I need some penis cream! STAT!
Yes, we're all 'hos, they be our pimps. What's worse the money we get is just the crack/heroin equivalent that keeps us coming back...
8:07, Great comment!
when did the topic shift from Donny the yahoo tyrant to some lady named Anita and Leslie?
It's interesting to note that many of our jobs are now being performed by non-US trained "attorneys"...
It's clear that NYC is outsourcing more and more. I recently heard that even ISDA agreement negotiation is now being outsourced. There's not going to be much left soon....
http://whileonthisissue.blogspot.com/2008/07/indians-making-inroads-into-us-legal.html
Oh you must be new...if you want real info on this industry visit a legit blog like http://tempatty.com. otherwise, you can stay and become a TTT the minion like me.
This blog is only for those who can't find work or have been blacklisted by everyone including their mother. it is also for people like me who feed
on the anger and hate of others. I love how down right dirty it has gotten. People even ask for penis cream on this site.
Oh yeah, if you stay long enough, you might even meet roach boy. He is the best.
12:52
Right on. It is also for trolls who think RB is cool as hell.
roach boy is a pathetic loser, that sweeps Anita's floor. He's the biggest moron here.
12:52 is Roach Boy's 25th post this weekend, he has no life and is obsessed with this site.
He wants to destroy this blog so he can exploit temps the way he used to...
anyone know any lawyers working as analysts a some of the big firms, if so, what is the word and how hard is it to get one those jobs? who manages them? pay? etc....
I just shot my resume over to debovoise. I'll let you know if I hear anything. I know if you can nab a gig at Quinn Emmanuel you're golden. I'm not sure about the others. Anyone else know?
Essential qualities for LPO lawyers...
http://draftncraft.blogspot.com/2008/07/essential-qualities-of-lawyer-to-be.html
My favorite part:
whether it turns out to be a good platform for the Indian lawyers primarily depends on the particular approach of an indiviual (including lawyers) towards the industry, one needs to have the vision to catch the crux and sharpen their knowledge, skills and qualification accoringly. But I agree, potential is for a very limited number of lawyers.
9:53,
I appreciate the help. I will quit whining and acting unprofessionally. First thing, I will quit commiserating on this blog, feeling like playing "minesweeper" while at work is something that my boss should expect, for example. Thanks, boss.
Yes, it's rather good to know that the Indian attorneys taking our jobs have such an excellent command of English...
who is anita and why is it that I keep reading that tom is avoiding some article she wrote?
10:13
Not only do they have a wonderful command of English (I guarantee thy would score higher on an English grammar test than anyone reading this blog), but they will be able to complete an entire day of work without screwing around all day, feeling sorry for themselves, and writing blogs complaining about not having "two minute cigaratte breaks" or being dismissed for playing minesweeper.
who are you talking about? Anita?
actually, 11:03, that comment was made by anita.
but if you read her article you see that while her piece may be written without grammar issue the article as a whole appears to be written by a college student
Oh Roach boy, paleeeze get a life! That's another 4 post in a row.
RB,
Roach Girl sounds a little snippy today. Better be on your best behavior.
I missed the earlier posts. Is roach girl anita? this tower woman?
roach girl is probably tom
sorry roach boy, your idle speculations are just gibberish. The question remains, who is roach boy and why does he hate anita so much?
Please explain yourself...
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Golden Oldie from March 14, 2006
Doug and Wendy Whiners said...
WARNING: Crude language follows….
To everyone,
I know it’s human nature to bitch about your job. Everyone does it. I’ve done it, we all have. I’ve been reading your posts, I see your anger, and I see your frustration. At one time, I lived it. And I have one thing to ask:
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
I’ve temped with you in the trenches. I’m not a lawyer, but my wife is, and we both would like to say “Thank you.” Why? See, because of immature, whiny, vindictive, little creeps like you guys, her hard work and sacrifice was appreciated that much more.
In the years of her temp career I never once saw her lie on her time sheet (unlike YOU). I never once saw her come in late (unlike YOU). She never worked high or drunk (unlike YOU). She never took more than a few minutes in the bathroom. If she did spend more time in the bathroom, you can bet she deducted the time on her time sheet. (unlike YOU who wants to be paid for sitting on your ass for a half hour, crapping and reading in a stall, feeling like you deserve cash for your private little recess).
Sure she bitched, sure she felt the pressure of loans (we both did and still do) but did she steal time from the company like YOU want to. No. You made her look twice as amazing as she is. And then she was hired as an associate at $150,000 (plus bonus and 401k, etc.) directly because she was honest and very focused at her really boring job. Plus, she didn’t listen to people like YOU, thank God.
Now, the first step to contrition is always the hardest, so I’ll get you started. Raise your right hand, or hook, or whatever...
I’m sorry you’re complaining when you’re making between $35 and $60 + OT an hour (yes, SIXTY +OT. Those jobs are out there, Bubba, but they won’t go to YOU. Guess why. Why don’t you reread the third paragraph…I’ll wait), effectively five to ten times what the average Joe/Jane makes per hour in this country.
I’m sorry someone forced you to enroll in law school and made you sit through three years of classes. Those must have been heavy shackles to bear. How did you ever sign your temp contract with those handcuffs on? That IS your signature, right?
I’m sorry you went to law school in 1927, when there was about, what? A hundred lawyers in the entire country? With available jobs at every corner? It’s 2007, guys. In THIS century, there are about 15,000 lawyers pumped into the legal system every year, a fact known so well to so many only “The first song played on MTV was ‘Video Killed the Radio Star’” would beat it in a popular trivia contest. In three years of law school, surrounded by lawyers, being taught by lawyers, I’m sorry this glaring statistic escaped you.
I’m sorry you didn’t get that free ride you thought you would get. It’s called paying your dues people and everyone does it. The good ones, anyway.
I’m sorry you don’t realize that every time you cry, bitch, and PERSONALLY insult Evelyn, Kathryn, et al, you don’t realize you’re cutting your own throat. WHO DO YOU THINK READS YOUR BILE? How much do you think they want to help you, or for that matter even be civil to you en mass after reading your shit stained posts? Self-defeating to say the very least…
I truly am sorry for you. So, maybe if y’all stopped bitching long enough, stopped wasting work time trying to come up with a clever complaint/metaphor/allusion/insult to tell Tom and did some legitimate work, maybe you’ll get out of the “hell” you’re in.
Oh, and to Tom the “Robin Hood Wannabe” Temp, I know you think your site helps, but frankly, you’re part of the problem. Don’t give these little bitches a forum to drown themselves, to perpetuate their lameness, to continue their self-loathing spiral into oblivion. Let them complain like normal people…to their bartender.
Now, my wife and I are tired. We went to see Van Halen tonight at MSG. Floor seats, man. We rocked hard!
Thanks again for the tickets.
Anonymous
PS Believe me, I wish I could state my name. However, anyone who wants to try to defend themselves, well, I love to laugh, so to call me an asshole personally, and I know I am one, you can reach me at DougAndWendyWhiner@gmail.com. I set it up just for YOU. Now, don’t you feel appreciated?
See what you've done, Tom? Do you SEE what you've done. If you had only commented on the Anita article a few weeks ago, none of this would have happened.
pffffft, like anyone cares about you retarded roach boy!
Roach Girl queefed again. That's why I hate sitting next to her on projects, one big old pfart after another.
Tom the Troll: what about the Anita article? Your credibiltiy begins and ends with you backing up your opinions. If you sit on your hands after the article, I am forced to believe the "Doug and Wendys" on what is reality.
Roach Boy, tell me the Truth. Who am I to believe?
pppppppffffffffffftttttttttt.
-Roach Girl
How dare you not let me play minesweeper--TYRANT!
Truth! I demand Truth!
Knock Knock
Who's there?
Anita
Anita, who?
I needa keep Anita happy by not addressing the article. I needa complain in a childish, insignificant way, that does not stand up to scrutiny. Otherwise, Anita is correct.
pffffffffftttttttt!!!!!
Same old tired roachie boy, what's the matter, you don't like the taste of raid?
Here's some more, you wretched pest.
ssppppppptttttttttttt!!!!
wicket, nasty pfarts from RG
Stop quiffing ANITA. Your vagina is stinking up the damn place!
Hudson had complaints of a sexual harasser on McCarter project and did nothing too and now David King is a lowly coder like the rest of us. Ahh, there is divine justice after all.
at least the skadden project isn't run by ajilon. idiots.
Where's King working?
Donnie Low is an associate at Skadden, apparently from Wales.
Click to check Donnie's profile.
He's a small guy with a high-pitched voice who no doubt was tormented in high school. Belittling contract attorneys in a sarcastic, caustic mannter is his way of coping, as well as making up for all the games of dodgeball where he was physically abused in elementary school gym.
But being an associate at Skadden, his life is hell, as it should be. In a week I'll be out of here, taking the month of August off to enjoy life. He'll still be here, trying to get contract attorneys to mark responsive documents reponsive and privileged. Good luck, Donnie. You're never going to make partner at Skadden, but you'll kill yourself trying.
Correction from 10:44... Donnie Low is from Australia, which is strange because I've visited New South Wales several times and found everyone there to have a good sense of humor. Hmmm, guess he didn't fit in.
famous tyrant.
http://www.constantinecannon.com/biographies/solow.html
He has a better chance of making partner than you do!
Became a fan of this blog recently. Found it by googling a woman i slept with and who turned out to be sort of nuts. She broke into my apartment and stole my mp3 player. To this day, she has the keys to my building. Went from professing love for me one day and two days later totally disappeared. There were several instances of emotional breakdowns, some of which had me concerned for this girl's mental health.
So, I would like to know who the tom the temp blogger was that was obsessed with Julie Zuckerberg, too.
I dont blame the guy...she has something. She wanted to be exclusive and I had no problem with that whatsoever. But once you dig a little deeper and get to know her, it starts getting shitty fast.
Wont get into details other than to say if Julie Zuckerberg ever googles herself and rereads some of these posts, and she reads this one, she should know I want my fucking keys and my mp3 player back you vindictive vixen. And getting my match.com account terminated...a little obsessive and beyond the reservation even for you.
Just give me my stuff back and let's let bygones be bygones.
Consider the hurt I caused you revenge for what seems like several temp attorneys you treated like shit and slept with and then cheated on.
I am Karma.
And Karma does want his mp3 back...dont make it anymore and...wtf, i dont have to justify...just get it back to me.
Anton Phillipe Wolfgang Van Sertima your new blog commenter is New York Defendant David R Waldman. See below:
CASE INFORMATION
CourtNew York Criminal Court
Case # 2014NY033914
Defendant Waldman, David R
Charge Detail Disposition/Sentence
PL 240.30 1A
**TOP CHARGE** A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionAgg Harassment 2 - Threat
PL 240.26 01 Violation, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionHarassment 2nd- Phy Contact
Please google the blog of david r waldman for your edification, okay?
thanks.
Hi Ms. Zuckerberg. Just want to wish you a Happy Thanksgiving. Go easy on the TP...you always said the nebbish was cheap.
By the way, there are some gentlemen who are anxious to speak with you and a friend of yours whom they seem to have nicknamed "accomplice" after the long holiday weekend.
Whooopsie daisy sugarbutt.
I have to ask...was the juice worth the squeeze?
How about you tell me after all is said and done?
You enjoy your holiday now.
nmate Details
WALDMAN, DAVID
NYSID: 12659887R
Booking Information
Incarceration 10-DEC-2014
Book & Case Number:
3491416626
Current Housing Facility:
MDC (Manhattan Detention Complex)
Arrest Date:
09-DEC-2014
Arrest Number:
m14705669l
Next Court Date:
12-DEC-2014
Bail and/or Bond:
$1,500.00 bail or $3,000.00 bond
Charge Information
Docket:Indictment:Court Part:Court Name:
Charge:
2014NY091426 00000 0000 D Manhattan Crim. Ct.
215.50 MA (CRIMINAL CONTEMP- 2ND A Misdemeanor)
David R Waldman
Year of Birth: 1968
Sex:Male
Race: White
Height: 5 ft 9 inches
Weight:172 lbs
Hair Color:Brown
Eye Color: Hazel
Nativity: New Jersey
DAVID R WALDMAN PLEADS GUILY
Docket Sentence: Conditional Discharge 1 Years CVA Fee Imposed $25 DNA Fee Imposed $50 Final Order of Protection 5 Years Surcharge Imposed $175 --- Information update
Last Appearance: 12/12/2014 --- Information updated
Part: D --- Information updated
Judge: Statsinger, Steven M --- Information updated
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type --- Information updated
Court Reporter: Martinez, J --- Information updated
Outcome / Release Status: Pled Guilty & Sentence Imposed / Released on Recognizance --- Information updated
Next Appearance: 01/30/2015 --- Information updated
Part: D
Judge:
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type
Docket Sentence: Conditional Discharge 1 Years CVA Fee Imposed $25 DNA Fee Imposed $50 Final Order of Protection 5 Years Surcharge Imposed $175 --- Information update
Last Appearance: 12/12/2014 --- Information updated
Part: D --- Information updated
Judge: Statsinger, Steven M --- Information updated
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type --- Information updated
Court Reporter: Martinez, J --- Information updated
Outcome / Release Status: Pled Guilty & Sentence Imposed / Released on Recognizance --- Information updated
DAVID R WALDMAN PLEADS GUILY
Docket Sentence: Conditional Discharge 1 Years CVA Fee Imposed $25 DNA Fee Imposed $50 Final Order of Protection 5 Years Surcharge Imposed $175 --- Information update
Last Appearance: 12/12/2014 --- Information updated
Part: D --- Information updated
Judge: Statsinger, Steven M --- Information updated
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type --- Information updated
Court Reporter: Martinez, J --- Information updated
Outcome / Release Status: Pled Guilty & Sentence Imposed / Released on Recognizance --- Information updated
Next Appearance: 01/30/2015 --- Information updated
Part: D
Judge:
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type
Docket Sentence: Conditional Discharge 1 Years CVA Fee Imposed $25 DNA Fee Imposed $50 Final Order of Protection 5 Years Surcharge Imposed $175 --- Information update
Last Appearance: 12/12/2014 --- Information updated
Part: D --- Information updated
Judge: Statsinger, Steven M --- Information updated
Calendar Section: Pending
Arraignment / Hearing Type: No Type --- Information updated
Court Reporter: Martinez, J --- Information updated
Outcome / Release Status: Pled Guilty & Sentence Imposed / Released on Recognizance --- Information updated
Criminal and domestic violence offender temp attorney David R Waldman is back in jail!
WALDMAN, DAVID
Booking Information Incarceration 06-MAR-2015
Book & Case Number: 3491502606
Current Housing Facility: MDC (Manhattan Detention Complex)
Arrest Date: 06-MAR-2015
Arrest Number: CRTDRT
Next Court Date: 09-MAR-2015
Bail Status: remanded
Why are you so obsessed with hurting me? You have hated me passionately for a year. An entire year.
The only domestic violence that we experienced was the night you had too much to drink and assaulted me and threw my laptop. This was during a two hour session of verbal abuse.
I was never violent around you or to you. I am simply not a violent person.
So why do you continue to post libel; and horrific libel at that, that will come back to haunt you once I am done with all the legal bullshit you have caused me.
You were the one who engaged in domestic violence. You are the one who broke into my apartment. You are the one who stole from me. You are the one who cheated. You are the one who etc. etc. etc.
I do not get this. I think if I actually had been violent or abusive to you you would have had me arrested and then done everything in your power to forget about me and move on with your life.
Even you, I am hoping, can realize how beyond the pale this has gotten.
We dated for a few months.
There was an instance of domestic violence, but I forgive you. I never called the police. In fact, I let you sleep it off in my bed while I slept on the couch.
Made you coffee when you woke up.
Even gave you the car service fare home when you had the class to ask for it.
Hardly abusive of me.
Many people I have spoken to about it have told me I should have thrown you out that night.
But I disagree. That is not how I was raised, that is not who I am and I would never do that to a woman.
You really ought to stop with the libel.
Is hurting me and my future more important to you than shielding yourself from stiffer legal and monetary penalties?
Your obsession with me would be flattering were it not so damaging....to both of us.
Please endeavor to remove the posts. You know I never hurt you outside of emotionally.
Post things I have said or done that are truthful and I will have no problem with it and will support your right to do it.
But the libel...domestic violence, violent rape fantasies, etc. No bueno.
Do the right thing here Julie. For you as much for me.
Do you really love or hate me as much as your behavior indicates?
I doubt it.
Neither of us will be able to completely move on while this nonsense continues.
I sense that you are enjoying all of this...I do not understand that at all.
So let me couch this in terms that you might understand and that might mean something to you.
The libels you have posted will cause you legal and financial harm.
I guarantee it.
Take them down and mitigate.
I am not worth all this. Even if I am, this is not the way to go about doing whatever it is you are trying to do.
You cannot hate me this much. Am I really so charismatic and such a force of nature that I can cause such obsession in you?
Dave, you were in a different section, but i always saw you in front of school with your smokers crew, or with your girlfriend. You were one of the cutest boys at school and you always seemed real sweet. I just picture you as always smiling and laughing. You are also hilarious. But you are also being played by julie. She can be a mean druggie bitch. But she is also smart. And I have heard that she is loyal to her friends.
You are playing into her hands with your posts and responses. She loves the attention and craves it. And she will always find a way to use it against you.
The best thing for you to do is simply ignore her. If you have evidence, save it for court. And then have the court order the removal of her defamation.
You should remove yours as well; even if they are true, it is very disrespectful to any woman to publicize your private moments like that. It makes you look petty and I think julie is bringing the worst out in you.
I mean only to be helpful, but the two of you are coming across like obsessed psychopaths. Julie obviously has some unresolved issues with you.
And you seem to have them with her.
I do not know whether you two should be scattered to different ends of the Earth or work this out in private and get married.
Neither of you seem to have moved on.
But as entertaining as this has been to read, knowing who you both are, and not having anything against either of you personally, seeing two adult professionals acting this way, and in such a public forum, reflects poorly on both of you.
Just stop it. Deal with your issues like mature adults and not like obsessed, vindictive and immature children.
I am only try to save you both from yourselves. I mean no disrespect.
This is David. I will be posting this anonymously only because I have no other options.
Thank you both for the compliments as well as the advice. The former is flattering and the latter is appreciated.
Your advice is very wise, and has been offered to me by several well meaning people.
I know that it is good advice, but I have not followed it purposefully as there is so much more to this debacle than just two exes who dated for a very short time, and yet, somehow, the fairer sex'd partner in the relationship has for some reason developed an obsession of hatred of me that goes so far beyond her libelous postings, postings of an arrest she effectuated against me that was based on a fallacy; i.e., not a crime.
As far as your suggestion of working things out, surely you jest. I would never publish, let alone speak of, personal details of women I am or have been involved with.
Anyway, this drama is shortly to end. The reasons behind the posts I have planted have finally yielded a harvest, and the farmers are gassing up the tractors. The growing season was a long one; over a year.
Soon enough, all of these posts will be deep six'ed, as will some bullies who have stalked, threatened, and done so much more that I cannot mention here at the moment.
That said, thank you again. Really.
PS - I am single????
Julie Zuckerberg said...
I feel so lucky I got out in 4 months. The rages he fell into around his jealousy, convinced I was cheating on him, the
names he called me! You see, I misunderstood. Apparently, I was supposed to be a perfect 10 for this man who was out
of shape, balding, unemployed since his arrest for the abuse-and at 45 has a testosterone level of 240 (that's more akin
to an 80 something man). At a size 0, he called me "chubby"! While he suffers gynocomastia, I OWED HIM perfect
breasts. Because I did not deliver on these sexist demands of physical perfection (for a smoker bellied faced 45 year old)
I was of course cast as a whore. This all makes sense, right? NO. This is verbal abuse looks like from a typical sad man who has no credit, no money, and his 75 yr old mom buys his furniture because he's broke.
What's it like you do think to be that woman, As in the mother that raised my ex monster abuser? How can that woman
look at her son while knowing he has violent rape fancies of his exs, A history of assaulting poor Denise, And the others,,,
so sad so many lives he terrorized this David Waldaman, I hope to god his other victims have recovered and are again
living, free, and happy!!!!
I'm talking the kind of abuse where besides calling you a whore and that you need to have a bald shaved pussy for him
so he can feel like he's with 12 year old girl. Or boy. So after I make my plan and leave this wonderful man... per the
literature.. he threatens to kill himself. Um, ok.. One safer woman out there!
Sadly, he didn't take his life after but he did lose his job, get arrested, and now has an open case in the criminal system
that will keep rocking for a year on those background checks companies to. SO NO JOB FOR YOU, ABUSER!!!!
Life works in mysterious ways. ::))
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