"After the second round of exposure in 'Bullshit Time' below, Axiom changed their bogus website - for the third time in a month!
After ditching 'The road less lawyered' and 'Lawyers you like', they now change to the more mundane but no less fart-inducing 'The Big idea in law.'
They then say how they are 'inspired by a big idea: to be the first real alternative to the traditional law firm'. They cut out a lot of the other B.S. (but still some in there, like how they help lawyers exercise 'self-determination', because if they cut this it would be a blank orange page like an empty table at McDonalds).
I have actually gone from throwing up at Axiom to being worried about them. Their obsession with their image on this website and ability to change their whole shtick overnight is scary!
Earth to Axiom: you still don't have it right. You are not an alternative to a law firm, except to the extent that checking into a mental hospital is an alternative to working in a law office. By your own admission, you just send temps to in-house jobs, i.e., you're a frigging/temp placement agency like all the others."
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Michael Jackson will save us!?
There is no greater path to self-determination and work/life balance than the life of a temp. Just remember that when you hear ghetto fat ass Big Bitch Mamma regurgitating her chicken wings at ten thirty at night. Sullivan & Cromwell is GHETTO!
Axiom called me once. I turned them down. Too namby pamby.
me's thinks axiom be getting breeding stock for document review from Asia. Argh, me gonna set a crew and Sail to the orient and bring some back to trade for booted. Me's can fit more orientals in me holds than can those big lipped nigerians.
argh, me timbers. Slave shipping be the life !
any one on a project doing subprime bank problem now?
Where are those doc review?
If you on a NYC project put details up.
Who's got what going?
Asians smell worse than three nigerian, with honors, llm,dfgt,aicpb,Msgr, esqqe's in the kitchen.
There is a massive wave of subprime litigation work going on right now. I read in the WSJ recently that the filings earlier in the year were at record highs. There are large factories full of Indian doc reviewers being "supervised" by people like Michelle Vega over in Mumbai.
You keep re-running the same story so I'll keep re-running the same response: if Axiom can make money for its attorneys by pretending it is something other than a temp agency, who does it hurt? The bottom line is that they place attorneys in real gigs, as opposed to doc reviews, and those attorneys make decent money.
Diprivan anyone?
Axiom is to associates what David Perla scumbags are to doc reviewers.
Regarding the people who put up retarded posts regarding "smelling", I bet you smell the worst - sitting all day in your underpants writing crap on this blog. Crap that you probably took out of your panties.
You actually get 2 different splash pages depending on how you enter the name. axiomlegal.com says big idea but axiomlaw.com still says lawyers you like. Both lead to the same website though.
On Craiglsist there is an ad paying $20/hour to interview homeless people in the streets. Wow, that's paying more than many legal gigs!
Did somebody say Diprivan?
If Axiom places attorneys in offices other than basements, from reading the posts from back in the "golden oldie days," aren't they doing what you would have S&C do? Can't win?
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
"Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger."
But please do it in the privacy of your own home. I don't know why people feel the need to jump in front of trains. I was fucking late this morning!
2012..approaching fast peeps..best to get in the Lord's good graces now..blessed be..can i get an Amen?
The legal establishment would just love it if you all killed yourselves Jim Jones style. They have no need for you. The law schools have completely drained you of every last once of available credit, and the legal employers have found a cheaper source of labor overseas.
Wouldn't it be more fun if soomeone who wanted to killself jumped out a window at a temp agency? That would be the best way to get some attention to our plight.
If HireCounsel wants to get more business, they need to hand out more brides to the ghetto trash that are delegated with the ability to hire for these projects. Why not send over some chicken wings to Big fat ass Mamma, or a nudie magazine to Michael T?
Good luck trying to jump out of a window in the basement.
The basement will kill you anyway - underground radiation.
Almost all of Hirecounsel's recruiters have been thrown out with the trash. But for some reason, they keep that useless ass Andrew.
All signs point to Hirecounsel going under soon.
Ah, too bad, so sad.
I worked at S&C and I have to say it was one of the most soul crushing experiences of my life. The hours were brutal, and the lifers were ghetto psychotic. I swear I think the devil inhabits that basement.
Who say S&C is ghetto?? Many of my friends work there - Big Mamma, Valvina, Mr. Clovester, Randy Hippo - they are normal people. Check out their pictures on my blog. What's wrong with them??
ItKs trueN the law schools and the agencies have feasted on dolt TTTers for years. Exploit, exploit exploit!
Now the gravy train is lurching to a halt.
Even the big projects in nyc are only paying a one time fee to temp agencies. No more endless weeks of $20 per hour for each temp working. No it's $1000 for the agency and hit the bricks.
The lpos have started the race to the gutter. So most agencies will cease to exist and will have leech off of slumlords like huron.
Gameover, the golden goose has slaughtered.
Pretentious bums like Axiom will. Be the among first to go. This crap can be done in an outsourced sweatshop here or abroad, who needs a demanding nyc temp?
Of course Obama and his ABA cronies have done nothing. They never will.
Bye bye legal profesion. Hello legal*mart.
I tell my colleagues, "If you're 6 months into a project, and you still have to ask questions about relevance, you're too old for this gig."
Someone a couple of years older than me almost just died mid-click. He looked happy.
maybe they are playing around with their branding? trying to find a message that works. websites are a good way to work on branding, a tagline, a message; or maybe, they need some help in the branding area. probably hired a marketing manager who is trying different things. be better off hiring an ad agency to come up with a coordinated message and rollout on the branding and image.
I am more inclined to work for an agency that cools it with the bs. I hate fakery. If they said listen, we are going to exploit you, you are going to earn a small scrap of what you are billed out for and not be offered health insurance; you are going to be stuck doing boring work with no future and with student loans factored in you will be earning less than a Mcdonalds cashier, but in return we will give you a paycheck, so bend over and get ready to take it on a daily basis, I would be all for that.
12:38,
If 6 *weeks* into a project you are still asking about relevance, you're making a good argument why this shit should be outsourced to India.
Every project I have been on people have asked about relevance months into the project.
Law firms are horrible managers. There is constant in fighting and turf wars among the staff, the rules are always changing, etc., etc. A good chunk of the foreign LLM's can't even read the documents.
Law firms in New York are ruthless. The funny thing is even paras and staff attorneys act all uppity at Big Law Firms.
Get real people - you are simply a Document Review Maid - not any higher than the temps you boss. The only difference is that you sucked someone's dong to get perm and many temps chose not to.
Lifer, how many hours can you put in a day befor crashing and burning?
I've done 14 hour days, but if the project is long term, I take it easy. Just depends on BS level and the amount of concentration involved. Current gig is really involved but is no BS. I go hard for a few hours, decent a few, and the last hour just hit the quota.
Btw, heroes, true temps learn the expected quota and don't exceed it. Also, just mark a 30 minute lunch so the agency doesn't take our perks because you're crazy.
click click click click....time for a McCafe...click click click click...
Axiom should change its name to Ascot.
Okay everyone, the outsource scumbags are now advertising on craigs list.
Its time we start emailing them with some reactions to their unauthorized practice of law. .
These are the poeple that are gutting our profession.
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Not sure "We're a a frigging temp placement agency like all the others" would be a very good ad campaign. Its advertising, lets not take it too seriously (e.g. my insurance company is in no way like any good neighbor I've ever known.
Slave Ship Bob, where are ye?
Lifer, will you marry me. I bet you have quite a stash stashed away somewhere in your Depends packets, and you still seem quite an active young thing. I think I am in love -I could use a knowing older woman to guide me.
Woohoo, I am done for the day!! The slavemaster at S&C said I could take off for today. Time to hit beach!! And who said temping was a bad thing.
I agree with Lifer - do NOT exceed the quota. Work at the same pace like me and my temp buddies. Take it easy, folks. I gotta go put on my speedo.
Prayer will lead you to the answer you seek, blessed be.
Ahoy, matee's, It be I, Slave Ship Bob,
bane of the seven agencies, plundering of the afrikan overtime booty, fouler of the public stalls and peeper of the errant skirt. Me's been out negotiating new terms with ye agencies, seems they be looking to get rid alot of you. Argh, they prefer fat and black. Trouble for Bob those be easy to catch, but can fit less into me's ships hold. Argh, they do make for fine timber shuving when's out to sea thou.
what's Bob to do, argh.
"You keep re-running the same story so I'll keep re-running the same response: if Axiom can make money for its attorneys by pretending it is something other than a temp agency, who does it hurt? The bottom line is that they place attorneys in real gigs, as opposed to doc reviews, and those attorneys make decent money."
Hi, Axiom!
Yes, to your repeated self PR (i.e. I don't care what you say, a lie, because you keep changing your website): you are NOT AN ALTERNATIVE TO A LAW FIRM. You are a temp placement agency.
Stop lying!
But maybe Harris and Gettel know so little that they don't even know the difference between a law firm and a temp agency.
Position offered:
Most notorious and surly Slave Ship Bob be hiring crew aboards the ship HMS Law Review.
duties include: sanitizing and deliousing Asian's just brought in before delivery.
"If Axiom places attorneys in offices other than basements, from reading the posts from back in the "golden oldie days," aren't they doing what you would have S&C do? Can't win?"
Hi, Axiom!
Now Axiom is using their standard old lie of saying "Davis Polk and S&c are the bad guys. We Axiom are for you. We are working for you." Sure!
Axiom is a temp placement agency that charges big, big margins and ties you up in a nasty contract. Their value added: nothing!
I'm not an Axiom employee or an Axiom attorney, so you can stop addressing me that way.
But you know what else? A temp agency IS an alternative to a law firm. No lie there.
fukin Asians, bunch of mo go gouks.
and smelly
"A good chunk of the foreign LLM's can't even read the documents."
Duh, yes, that's the whole point!
The Nigerians are retarded!
The Nigerians troll in here and say how much better they are and cite all their degrees with honor etc. etc. etc. pharmacology degree too! But the truth is no one, no one, will ever hire them for a substantive job.
On a 100 lawyer doc review, the brain dead, lazy ass Nigerians get "lost in the sauce" so no one ever discovers that they don't know what they're doing. Besides the client wants every document to be marked irrelevant or priv.
How many Nigerians on Bloomberg? Zero. Because it requires useable work product and you can see who did what (or didn't do what). The Nigerians writing about how to bribe the judge just doesn't meet the legal standard of most U.S. organizations.
"I'm not an Axiom employee or an Axiom attorney, so you can stop addressing me that way.
But you know what else? A temp agency IS an alternative to a law firm. No lie there."
Hi, Axiom PR Department!
Maybe you need to change your website again. Because it has to be exposed on this blog before you dumb asses realize how stupid you look.
Axiom, the temp agency for shitheads.
"maybe they are playing around with their branding? trying to find a message that works."
Hi, Axiom!
Too obvious to comment on this Axiom trawling/excuse-making.
Why don't you fire all your people, including your too greedy know-nothing founders?
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
"OW! MY BALLS! OW! MY BALLS!OW! MY BALLS!"
Hi, Axiom!
Any doubt now that this is Axiom (see timing of their comments.)
Good investment, Greenie! Now you're stuck with that cost overrun, too-many-office temp shop!
"Dave Moss said...
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
Hi, Axiom!
Isn't that Axiom stuff what the teenagers wear to get pussy?
New York City’s Schulte Roth & Zabel, which in April laid off 20 attorneys and deferred 2009 associates to 2010, has informed its current Summer associates that no job offers will be made at this time.
Usually, the firm extends job offers for the next year to Summer associates at the end of the program, which concludes this week.
The firm says it will make some offers eventually, but no decisions have been made as to how many, or if any start dates will be deferred.
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Wonder how much a Mr. Softee truck driver makes....
I don't think people show enough appreciation for Dave Moss or the accuracy and significance of his comments. He is on point practically every time.
Dave Moss is a sick donkey.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/business/global/23temps.html?_r=1&hp
Shit is worldwide!
"Not sure "We're a a frigging temp placement agency like all the others" would be a very good ad campaign. Its advertising,"
OK, (since Axiom gets all their ideas from this blogsite), how about:
Axiom Temps:
The Temp Agency working for you the temp
Now, currently, the second part would be a complete lie, but at least it would openly say what it is that they do.
Then, they could say how they place temps and this is (at least) better than the biglaw world.
Also then, they would have to take off all the "fluff" personal life comments of their people like Mark Field and his son. So intrusive! Worse than Davis Polk!
Day-O
"tally me banana/ Daylight come and me wanna go home."
Axiom, using that little kid in your advertising campaign is disgusting. Isn't there some child exploitation statute you are violating?
Where is Chief of State T.B. James Monroe Harding honors LLB, DDS?
f u, Big fat f-ing Mamma, you big fat fat fat fing fat piece of ghetto fat fing shit.
"Another asset of which we're especially proud is our employees. We've developed an extensive screening process that helps us identify only those candidates who are able to make an immediate and meaningful contribution to our clients. And once we've identified an appropriate candidate, we offer outstanding training, benefits and support to help the candidate complete the assignment successfully."
From the Update Legal site.
Isn't Update second only to the market-leader "DeNovo" in having the most Nigerian lawyers on projects?
My recollection is seeing dozens of them.
So much for their illustrious "screening process".
"Outstanding training"?
What training is there at Update?
Or are they talking about their frequent calls about inappropriate attire?
But, but, but at least Update is one of the only temp shops that says its employees are an asset. Believe it or not, this is almost unheard of in this dogshit business.
Update provides training? For what?
Big Ass Mamma is HUNGRY RUN run run run that monstrous ugly fat ass beast is coming to eat everything -Your dinner, your lunch, your baby's food, fuck man, that beastathon will eat YOU run run run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't seen Lucy Koward in so long. Did Big Mamma eat her too, or has S&C finally realized what a useless stupid dumbass she is, and what a waste of money it is to have her at the firm. Bigg Mamma is also useless, but I imagine they are scared shitless of that fucking beast.
Update will train you to cooperate with the BEAST Big Mamma. She gives them jobs, and they give her presents. What a wonderful world.
What gifts does Update bring to Big Mamma? Do they shovel cheeseburgers into her fat face?
Even if it's not edable, that beast will salt and pepper it, a little ketchup, and GULP!
So who owns the revolution and what does it mean in the context of the law? Are legal rebels those who, as the ABA project suggests, innovate with technology to bring down costs and better serve clients, even if it means the elimination of traditional jobs? What about the hordes who read and comment on sites like Temporary Attorney, waging their online battle against what they see as the legal profession's race to the bottom?
http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2009/07/can-lawyers-be-rebels.html
The dorks are back. Get a life. No one cares Shove you philosophical bullshit up you loser ass, and let's get back to Big Mamma, and mmmmm Clovester, and, uuuhh, Alex CHeatAllard, and the Fat Marks, and Valvina, and all that fun stuff. Dude before me... - BORING!
you forgot the Albanian joker, Borat, ANUS, P--EEEENNNNIS, THE WONDER DICK, loser.
And, his lil bitch, musch face. And, PotaMarks Whorestrous, fat and ugly, Miss TRACY Whoredan, the stupidest one
And, his lil bitch, musch face. And, PotaMarks Whorestrous, fat and ugly, Miss TRACY Whoredan, the stupidest one
nice to Big Mamma. She has all the food.
Big Mamma, please o please staff my temps on your next project that my husband just made sure you now have, and his little Fat-Buns-JennyRL-Fucking lacky, Mr Parchfuck made sure went through........ I have a schmorgensborg of all kinds of goodies twelve feet long for your feast tonight.
"tally me banana/ Daylight come and me wanna go home."
(me Nigerian; me good Englise).
Nigerians are Niger, 1st and ians,2nd.
Sullivan is a shithouse, what a joke they are such prestigious a firm. Like the Nazi's saying they are a progressive political party. I bet the whites there are into kiddie porn and little boys.
fuck you biglaw!
fuck you fuck you fuck you!
love to run into some biglaw faggots out and bust them up.
fuck you.
Any big law rid this and want to step I am
more than ready to school you.
Is that Gorilla mounting Big Mamma again?
Who is Gorilla? Who could possibly manage to mount Big Mamma?
Didn't you ever see that mammouth who prowls the temp area at 55 Water? He is not very tall but damn is he wide. And very angry looking. The kind that exists in the worst nightmares.
Biiiig Mommmmmma in da House!!!!!! She gonna eat up the temps, literally.
Watch out recent law grad, she's hungry!!!!
Yes, S&C is a shithouse. The prestige comes from the corporate side of the firm. Over there many associates are bright and friendly, they have staff attorneys too but you won't hear anyone talking about them on here because they aren't insane.
Is it sizzling salad day @ S&C? Can someone bring me one please w/ extra dressing?
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It is absolutely true that a temp agency TO CORPORATIONS is an alternative to a law firm TO CORPORATIONS. How is that not obvious? So Axiom isn't really lying here. I find it a little annoying that they are acting like their idea is revolutionary when really it's just their marketing that kinda rocks - let's be honest, they have an idea to market themselves differently, so what's wrong with that? It's kind of working - many people take them slightly more seriously than other temp agencies, because they have a "cool" vibe - even a high-level banking friend of mine mentioned them like they were this new cool business, people's ears perk up. They are slightly unique in their business model - long term temp agency that pays more than most temp agencies. So why are you complaining about a place that PAYS MORE than others to the temp attorneys you supposedly represent? It's a confusing business model so perhaps I'm wrong here, but where is the harm?
Also, and this is important, anyone who knows the ethics rules in NY will know that any company calling itself "Axiom Legal" or anything other than the name of at least one attorney practicing at the firm, is NOT A LAW FIRM because trade names aren't permitting to be used in NY. Which frankly is a bit annoying and overreaching. But Axiom Legal, unless it has some loophole, can't be a law firm name in NY. So it's clearly not a law practice... it's a temp agency or it would have to change its name. It's a great name though. And by the way, please don't assume anyone who disagrees with you is an Axiom troll - it's kind of insulting. People are allowed to have their opinions - I'm on the fence about Axiom, and in the end agree that it's a glorified temp agency with good marketing - but I repeat, why the heck not?
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
2:26- Hi, Axiom troll!
6:10 - 2:26 here - nope I'm not an Axiom troll. Nice try though. Did you even read my post? You are truly a lost cause. Believe what you want, but you're truly an idiot if you think EVERY post that even smells half positive (and mine was only HALF positive) about Axiom is by an Axiom troll. How stupid can you get.
Do any of you know whether Axiom purchases malpractice insurance on behalf of its attorneys? I wouldn't think it could since it doesn't supervise their work - would think the legal departments would add the Axiom attorneys to their malpractice insurance. But curious how it works.
Big Mamma Big Mamma
Big Mamma ate Axiom, and all within
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"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
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You all should be thankful you are working in this economy. A little discomfort at work and off you go...ranting and raving of how horrible the working conditions are. "there was no access to internet," "they wouldn't let me eat at my desk," etc..complaints never ending. You people don't even know the definition of work ethic. As far as that lunatic Helpme123 goes,please get this guy a JOB! I've read your blogs and you win the Blogger of the year award for posting the most ridiculous, childish, dumb blogs!
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Big Mamma?
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger."
Axiom has furnished capable lawyers to my company, and they have been treated as professional colleagues while they were here. What other agencies and companies do, I can't say.
Pay attention to Dave Moss! He makes an important point.
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"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
I worked for Axiom a few years ago. While other temp agencies were paying $25-35, they paid me $40 to start and after 4 months, paid me $45. Very decent people.
Hi Axiom!
What you don't say Axiom is the fat margin Axiom was charging the client based on more qualified people, i.e., no Nigerian rubbish.
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
8.16 a.m.
Hi Axiom!
But I thought Axiom didn't do doc review, or stopped doing it?
Or now you say they pay you $40 doc review rate for a substantive work?
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
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