"The story says Biller’s suit has 'electrified the plaintiffs bar, where some lawyers involved in vehicle cases have long voiced suspicions about foreign automakers withholding evidence.'"
http://www.abajournal.com/news/ex-toyota_lawyer_alleges_destruction_of_evidence_in_rollover_suits/
Outsourcing discovery work to India is a great idea. If you think foreign corporations are good at withholding evidence, just wait until you see what the LPO's do. Oh, I forgot: the ABA says that a 3rd world sweatshop factory is okay as long as one American attorney is "supervising" the work. Too bad that "supervising" attorney is off having a nervous breakdown!
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Ummmm, where does it say that the evidence/doc/data was withheld by foreign contract document reviewers?
Sounds more like Toyota is playing with discovery rules of each jurisdiction it does business in - which is something that all international corps do.
It's all the same.
Shift documents over international borders, create confusion, hope things get lost in the shuffle. It's funny how documents involved in the American subprime implosion are being packaged and sent out of the country ASAP.
Or in the alternative.
Hire a bunch of ghetto trash attorneys that took 4times to pass the bar. Promote them to supervisory positions and stick them in a basement somewhere. Let them fire anyone they think is smart. Important docuements are sure to get lost in the shuffle.
"They, too, are simply taking advantage of system that allows them to game it."
Hey all,
A lot of you have signed up for monthly tweet-a-thon and I appreciate it. All proceeds go to a good cause, trust me.
Anyway, I have still be pluggin away at the ol' 70 hours/week at $40 an hour plus $60/hour OT, and its been great!
Did I tell you guys, the client was so pleased with our ongoing QC'ing of the first levels (four fired in the past month), that they've made it so our OT rate kicks in at 32 hours (not 40). Big difference. Has allowed me to trash last year's fall wardrobe (straight to the dumpster) in favor of a new 2009 lineup.
Very Truly Yours,
Better Coder
www.bettercoderthanyou.wordpress.com
BC - tone it down - as always there are people on this blog (including yoursef, no doubt) who have been or are out of work and don't want to hear about your imaginary new clothes. Have some class, bro.
better coder.
you are a bitch. I will kick your ass.
BC-
I have a real job and don't have to work 70 hours a week.
I spent most of the summer loungeing on the beach and adding months of substanative work to my resume.
Hope you enjoy your new clothes.
The truth will come out eventually about these shoddy LPOs and the hiding of documents that goes on.
I know that Tom is onto something because the only response from Perla Ross et al is to hurl a racist attack at American coders.
On the project I am currently on, we have top 5 law grads and former biglaw associates, clerks and in house counsel.
The quality is much higher than some disastrous non jds clickers being supervised by people that couldn't hack it America.
LPOs are a ruinous joke. proceed at your peril. Just look at those clowns at Rio Tinto.
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They love Nigerians and Indians because they are cheap, and if they can't figure out the English lingo they always click non-responsive.
I cut-and-pasted this onto the abajournal blog without mentioning this blog. They deleted the comment! On what basis? When you challenge the puppet masters pulling the strings within the ABA, I guess they don't want to hear it.
Other limits to the privilege may apply depending on the situation being adjudicated; for instance, the crime-fraud exception can render the privilege moot when communications between an attorney and client are themselves used to further a crime or fraud. In Clark v. United States, the US Supreme Court writes that "A client who consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud will have no help from the law. He must let the truth be told."
In at S&C!
1:47 Well put!! Yeah most of us want to do real work and would hardly be proud of 80 hours in a stinky airless sweatshop clicking like a monkey.
BC, bro, that is NOTHING to be proud of. You should die in shame that that's all you have been doing. Who cares about clothes??? I hope you strangle yourself with your new tie. Get a life you coding monkey!!!
Helga - I've been watching more and more nasty German porn while I've been unemployed for the last 6 months.
I want to be your love slave. We could do foul and disgusting things to one another.
- Unemployed Coder Sex Slave
Helga's website is weird.
Better Coder is an asshole!!
And he seems to have no life except sitting in unchanged underpants for 14 hours a day. What a loser. I am out at 6, making the same money and can do other things.
Where are Lifer and Beer Guzzler and Father Eamon and Suicidal??? They are funny and have something to say.
What happened to Sir Misanthrope ?? He was funny too...probably got a job???
Fuck all you losers. I went to a shitty college, no law school and look at me - queen of S&C basement, ruling temps with an iron first and a foot up their slimy ass. All you need is a college degree, ginormous tits and boooootay and a ghetto 'tude, dude
I'm proud of the work I do, eff off 6:32. How is the curry this morning, Babu?
Dude, there is no mention of outsourced legal work in this article. You are a hate-filled modern day Fr. Coughlin - who was, incidentally, also quite popular with the shitrabble.
Why is a mere reference to outsourcing (which steals our work) racist?
I think you are anti-American and racist. Do you know that people of color are heavily represented among the ranks of contract attorneys?
8:51 you are a hateful racist and a liar.
Interestingly, Father Coughlin's magazine was called "Social Justice" :-) After Kristallnacht, he claimed it was the Christians who had been persecuted first.
All these free frappucinos at my Starbucks mopping job have added 30lbs to my previously slender waist...more reason to die...
Helga's blog is the very creative. The temporary attorney with the large axe kinda freaks me out.
8:05 Unemployed Sex Slave: good luck baby. Hope you find someone soon.
BTW, the woman on the blog with the ax represents the "insane case manager" - Valvina has scissorhands, others have axes.
If you don't "get" the blog, I can see where it would be strange. If you "get" the blog, then its just fun. At least I had fun putting it together!
Where is my beerguzzler? I need a laugh. Hope he isn't in a deep funk over the passing of his hero, Ted Kennedy.
I have always been baffled by this blog. Did you all think law school was where you ride out 3 years and expect a fat paycheck? Just for attending school? Ok, I admit it. I did, too. I went to a TTT. But is everybody on this blog incapable of independent thought, to pursue other options? You are "surprised" when people game the system be it India, subject us to crap working conditions knowing we can't do anything about it, serve up crap pay, etc.? But that's America. That's what we do here. It is all (only) about greed, money, finance. The law is an ass and it is a commodity like everything else in this country. Look at who the freaking Founding Fathers were for God's sake. From those guys to JP Morgan and through today we knew that cheating, fraud, and swindle were the way to go. And "let's shit on all those below us who can't make it". With zippo government interference. We have no values, no morals. Only $ matters, absolutely nothing else. Yes, I went to law school like you did, got stuck in doc review, with 8 gazillion dollars in debt and said "ok, stupid me" and then I got disiplined and just networked networked networked. NY Times and the trade papers and web sites every week, calling everybody I knew, doing pro bono, etc. And, yes, I actually went to LegalTech. Twice. And man was it tiresome. But whine? WTF does that do? I am working for an EDD company now (non-Indian, thank you). Took me 1 1/2 years but I did it. Get out of the negative funk and the "let's bitch about everything" and just drop this whole "victimization" attitude and this whole "oh woe is me" stuff. No, it ain't easy. But the opportunities, chances, ability to reinvent yourself are there. But you have to work it.
fine, Mr Cheer, but do you mind if we warn potential law school applicants by telling them the truth?
THAT is one of the purposes of this and similar forums, and why people come here and post comments--to warn other people, potential victims of the law school scam....
2:48 AM ("Mr Cheer") response to 7:29 AM: Sorry. I agree with your efforts. I did not realize the blog had a "potential law school applicants" following.
I love the people that get on this board and, while being patronizing and condescending, tell us to have an independant thought.
2:48, to be exact.
Eat my withered crack. I went to a top 20, did alright re: GPA, and I got a toilet job and was laid off. My first doc review interview looked at my resume, and saw "clinical experience," "litigation," and others skills. They laughed and said, "you won't be doing ANY of that here, but if you want a check, we'd like to give you a try."
That's how I got on Vioxx... so fuck you.
Ah, yes, 8:47 -- yet another negative loser. Top 20? You wish. At least 2:48 tried. If his story is legit. I think this whole blog is written by the same 10 guys who have absolutely nothing to do. I love this blog. When I feel REAL bad I go here for triple negative enforcement, racism, ignorance. I love you guys!
I like what 2:48 is saying. It's inspiring. The thing is that I have been doing all that for months and months and nothing is happening and I feel exhausted and burnt out. I would appreciate any advice on how to go on against such odds - I would definitely like to keep up the momentum.
Ted Kennedy banged a lot of women, drank, had fun - well, he could because he was a Kennedy. Imagine him doing doc review and trying to have a "personality" or be the "lion of the coding room" Ghetto cunts like Valvina and Big Mamma would cut his nuts off....
9:31 A.M.
Give yourself a tonsillectomy with a shotgun.
Its money that matters oh boy don't youy say.
Its money that matters, in the USA!
I hope your mother isn't prescribed a poison pill by some quack doctor who is given a kickback by some unethical pharmaceutical company and drops dead.
Let's be real here, these companies spun the data, obfuscated the truth, and funded dummy clinical studies. People died. Lehman and AIG were scum, but at least these companies didn't murder innocent people. Not only are the CEO's of these companies not in jail, but the ABA just gave them the green light to bury discovery material in some 3rd world goat farm for future lawsuits.
Not logged in as lifer... I have the diploma, but not the job. Top 20. Wanna bet $1,000? I swear to God.
Lifer, how do you stay regular when working so many hours? I would imagine that too many bathroom breaks would raise the ire of the psychotic supervisors.
Looks like the justice system in Ecuador also isn't so good. I shouldn't say this. Suggesting that the judicial system and bar licensing requirements in foreign nations isn't up to par with that of the United States is clearly racist.
"Facing a possible $27 billion verdict in a landmark pollution lawsuit in Ecuador, Chevron Corp. released videotapes Monday that the company claims show serious judicial misconduct as well as a possible $3 million bribery scheme related to the case.
According to the San Ramon company, the videos prove that the lawsuit's presiding judge has already decided to rule against Chevron, even though he has not issued a verdict."
hey y'all am hopping on a greyhound to rhode island..gonna turn some tricks..its legal there..who wants to join??? my stretch marks and saggy skin are coveted!! hey at least ill make some $$ while i wait for my next gig from update...damn if only i had gone to a top 20...oh well hey the US open is hiring too for work at their concession stands!!!
Moooo! Babu quick put the discs with data inside the cow. Cows are sacred, no one would dare.
Today is the 70th Anniversary of FALL WEISS, the German invasion of Poland. Too bad the good guys lost. Buchanan writes that Hitler did not really want war, and he makes some valid points.
http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/090831_hitler.htm
How many of today's ills, from the lunacy of multiculturalism and the false ideal of diversity (which really just means less white) to unbridled greed and corruption, vastly overrepresented by a certain bloodcult, to the breakdown of the family, to the proliferation of vices that reach a level of profigacy, from illicit drugs to hyper-promisicutiy, were foreseen by far-right ideology, most notabily national socialism.
Hitler may not have wanted war, but it seems he is having his revenge from beyond the grave and this pitiful country is becoming a third world cesspoll. GOD DAMN AMERICA! GOTT STRAFF ENGLAND! GOTT STRAFF AMERIKA!
12:20 PM is right on! diversity sucks, lets ship that ugly liberty statue back to france asap! have you seen the gremlins that ride the trains these days!! scurry..you dont see the Japanese lettin in all this trash..they keep it pure
Just because you cannot compete with minorities, you insult them.
Insult yourself, as a white boy, in your OWN system with all the privileges and acceptance of ebing white, you have failed.
Close the borders, WE DONT NEED ANYMORE TRASH HERE PLEASE THANK YOU!
Valvina and Big Mamma are TRASH. You can't get anymore GHETTO TRASH than that. You would never see those freaks of nature employed by a reputable Japanese company.
I agree with 1:07. And I also like Helga's depiction of crazy case manager with an axe.
Helga, please add a photo of a crazed PMS bitch on steriods for Valvina, King Kong photo for Big Mamma and one picture of parrot for parrot-nosed paralegal Heather B. at Pfizer - all CRAZY CUNTS ON PERM PMS!!!! And way too big for their boots!! They act like partners but are little more than peons...
"Just because you cannot compete with minorities, you insult them. "
Yes we know how successful blacks and Hispanics are and how they don't really need affirmative action, but still use it and fight for their lives to keep it.
Funny every test at every level they score at the bottom, and the non-competitive whites, Jews, and Asians score at the top.
Yes, their just jealous of the better brains of the blacks and spanish.
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what is bird-nose beak face Heather doing at that shithole Pfizer.
That is the ultimate temp sweatshop.
"lets ship that ugly liberty statue back to france asap!"
This was a secret plan by France to destroy their enemy, America, by getting them to take in a lot of trash from Nigeria and Mexico.
"Give us your huddled Nigerian job-stealers and e-scammers who do nothing for society and never give a dime to charity and talk the country down, give us your illiterate Mexican spitting all over the place and blasting La Bamba."
Ghetto trash is everywhere....Valvina, Big Mamma are just a few samples of the nastiness lurking in the firms...
Helga, you look good honey.
To clear up some confusion demonstrated on the part of many: the supply and demand of lawyers is not determined by free market principles so any arguement espousing that free market supply -demand principles are involved is extremely misleading. A taxpayor subsidy to the law schools and banks in the form of government backed loans determines the supply of lawyers. This misunderstanding applies to many areas of American economic life and is typical. Its like that lady at the town hall meeting complaining that she didn’t want the government messing with her medicare. Once again, law school candidate supply is mainly determined by government welfare to law schools and banks at the expense of the misguided law school students and lawyers. Theres is also a substantial marketing factor on the part of the ABA/ government/educational complex along with some fanciful media portrayals of lawyers contributing to the glut as well.
-PubliusEsq
god dam give me $3.9 million and you will never hear from me again.
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