Michelle Vega spent more than six years as a litigation associate at Kelley Drye & Warren in New York before leaving the firm to care for a sick relative. When Vega started looking for a job a year later, she wanted to take her skills in a new direction.
A friend at a legal staffing company told her about an opening that offered management experience outside the law firm environment, but required a one-year stint in India. Vega was immediately intrigued and asked the friend to submit her résumé. When outsourcing company Mindcrest Inc. offered Vega a senior manager job in May 2008, she accepted and moved her life to Pune, India, by month's end.
"I like to travel and have always been interested in the world outside New York," said the 35-year-old Brooklyn native, who is still living in Pune.
As a senior manager at Mindcrest, Vega oversees the work of about 450 employees through 25 direct reports. Her work ranges from researching briefs in support of motions to drafting discovery requests to responding to subpoenas.
Vega, who graduated from Touro College Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center, said she enjoys using her litigation knowledge to guide the young Indian attorneys who do the company's legal research, document review and contract management work. Training Indian employees often means putting things in context for them. For instance, she might have to explain the relative value of a building on Park Avenue in New York by comparing it to an upscale street in Mumbai, Vega said.
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This is to the douche who always tells us to shut up and relentlessly claims that the work will return in the 3rd or 4th quarter. THE WORK IS NEVER COMING BACK. You have tier 4 grads "supervising" 450 foreign illiterates. The game is over.
It is always the bottom feeders that are the most willing collaborators.
How did this Touro grad get a job in biglaw? This is why affirmative action is such a horrible idea. After providing this woman with a leg up and a once in a lifetime opportunity, she turns around and sells out her country.
This blog is negativity porn.
so that means she can spend about 56 seconds "supervising" workers over 8 hours if she does NOTHING else all day. 56 seconds at the most, if she stops to take calls research things and all the other stuff she claims to do, she is CLEARLY NOT supervising anything, and is just a figure head so that this operation can claim supervision. I have to agree with 2:33, if courts sign off on this as being legal, then doc review is over.
I worked with her at Kelley Drye. She really does do nothing all day. In the review area, she was constantly on the phone chatting it up with her friends and reading magazines. I can't picture her adequately supervising 400 people. What a joke!
This girl and the other Milbank girl mentioned in the article are morons. Like the other poster said, she is just a figure head so that this operation can claim supervision. As soon as the shit hits the fan which it inevitably will, Perla will blame them and it will be their licenses on the line. Clearly, Perla is setting them up as patsies.
If these Indian workers need to have something 100% obvious like the value of a building explained to them, how in the world are they going to pick on something slightly more abstract?
This really is crazy stuff, and I am not even going to mention the implications of the "benevolent white overlord enlightening the poor unfortunate semi-savage Indians".
I also just read that New York adopted new rules for "multi-jurisdictional" practice. Courts still have to go along with it, but all of you need to write letters to the New York State Bar complaining about this, and canceling your membership, if you belong, they are taking the money out of your pocket.
She sounds like a fellow Wise Latina Woman to me.
Comparing Park Avenue to Mumbai--hmm---how much is the rent if you have a hotel?
2:50 is DEAD ON
I second 2:50. What's wrong with making a living - any legal ones at least - that one can honestly find. I worked with Michelle when she was at Strategic Legal. She was professional, albeit sometimes a bit slow in returning emails. So what!
Do you think that in the real world, there is a crybaby blog out there similar to this one where the average Joe or Jane bitchs and cries about a certain professional athelete moving on to the next professional basketball or baseball team (even to a rival team) because the new team offers a higher salary.
I doubt it because because as long as the living is honest, who are you to judge?
Remember in the 1990s, everyone was bitching about Japanese car makers stealing the market shares of US automakers. Look at what is happening now -- states like Tennessee are praying and actively lobbying for such Japanese or Korean automakers to come to their towns. Maybe the LPOs will set up shop in the US and hire your bitches for the next document review. Are you going to still refuse to work with them then because they cannot speak English or are half as intelligent as you?
The moral of the story is: you snooze you lose!
Why do you sign that on your way to bed tonight! Remeber don't snooze!
I third 2:50!
All,
A lot of you have been wondering (via tweets and private messages) whether I've been asked to head any Indian-based document review companies.
No doubt, I have. But unfortunately for the quality of work produced in India, the Indian lawyers I most certainly would have helped to become better coders, and the throngs of Indian women whom would have had a chance at the Better Coder, I turned them down. The pay was simply atrocious.
Very Truly Yours,
Better Coder
Hey christie Julian at update legal is a dumb dumb fat fatty fat cow piece of shit!
dude,
this lady is probably willing to be a child talent scout so they pick the best kids to make crippled beggars if it means a paycheck. All someone cares about is a job and getting paid.
Fuck
Ahoy mateee's,
It be me Slave Ship Bob, bane of the seven agencies, plunderer of the Negro bootie, Captain O'the breakroom fridge and fouled of de public stalls. Argh, me timbers. I be allying meself with the slant eyed legal pigeons and the dreaded Jew to helps meself to some that prized Nigerian overtime. I be bringing in a ship loaded full of documents.
don't be listening to this fool!
I am the real slave ship bob and I say Nigerian document reviewers are the best. I am loading up at port newark now and will soon sail to manhattan to deliver my cargo to the agency.
my ass hurts it is sore from much Nigerian love
my ass hurts it is sore from much Nigerian love
Over 9,000 years ago, when I first saw Tauro ads on the subway, I knew at least one of them would make it. I wonder if Zoni teaches them English and they pretend they're in America, you know, like calling the Untouchables "temps." Oh me, oh my.
If you had two thousand documents coded by four doc reviewers, two of which are asian, one Nigerian and one Jamaican. How many are miscoded?
If you had two thousand documents coded by four doc reviewers, two of which are asian, one Nigerian and one Jamaican. How many are miscoded?
yo ho ho,
How do drive a jamaican document reviewer crazy?
Super glue shut a canister of Kool-aid and leave it in the breakroom.
You know what makes temps most angry? When you "lose" expense reports and receipts.
Torehoe? is that even a real school?? how do they become accredited?? sadness...skip the jd and paralegal you make more, full benefits, etc, close to 100k w/ limited OT..the rich live, the poor die
BC, I guarantee I'm making more than you per hour and working 1/4 as hard or less. Also, I work 8:30 - 5 on the dot, M-F.
No coding at all. AND it's a JD job... (even though I am barred).
me sees much fine Negro to plunder yonder down Jamaica.
me's gonna be signing on a crew to go take Kingston and bring back a hearty load of document review breeding stock.
me's be plundering Nigerian overtime and hearty Jamaican boogie matters's.
it a document reviewers life for me
I am not surprised that Vega would wind up as a whore to the LPO outsourcers, scouting for cheap slave labor. Spoiled bitch is bragging about enjoying the Taj Mahal while people over here can't even feed their families because of evil bastards like Perla.
2:33
Actually, you'll have 2 U Penn grads living in a yacht off of Crete, on their laptops with satellite uplinks, managing 2500 Untouchables in Bangalore with maybe 3-5 GWU grads flying in every other week to work as overseers.
It's called "Virtual LPOing"...
Multiply that by about 30 and that'll be the scenario, Coolio.
No mo' Doc Review jobs in the US, except a few in Icelandic and Hausa.
she lived in PUNE, india, hahaha
So, this woman is basically the Alex Gaylard of india?
A truly lame piece of shit. To think this useless dummy is capable of supervising a better coder's fry shift at better burger is a stretch.
It does indicate that there are serious oversight issues and likely these dumps are absolute cesspools.
Plaintiff's lawyers are going to have a field day! Go git 'em!
Are these festering topilets even insurable? One good law suit and the whole house of cards will come tumbling down!
Any takers?
Ahoy laddies there's plundeer for the taking. Arrrrgggghh!
HA ha! A tier 4 law degree is worth just as much as all of your tier 1 degrees! HA ha!!!!
HA ha! A tier 4 law degree is worth just as much as all of your tier 1 degrees! HA ha!!!!
Maybe alex gayllard can go to Indian and fuck some of those thin women he likes so much.
What about Clovester?
buku dinky dow
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
GAYllard is has never been and never will be an associate. He is delusional. In his current position he only climbed from the depths of the shiter to the rim of the bowl, and even this is arguable. Some might say he is still swimming in the brown water with the other turds...
12:24 am, your evaluation of GAYllard is correct. He is striving to be a terd. His corporate value is limited. I'm waiting for the day he is shitcanned.
So Ms. Vega is a graduate of Fucksberg?
Did you notice all these bottom law schools have long names like Touro Law School Jacob R. Fuchsberg law Center....
FUCK YOU LAW SCHOOLS!
FUCK YOU NEW YORK BAR!
"I worked with Michelle when she was at Strategic Legal."
ha ha ha.
Try, she is another Update/Shawn Treadwell/Helene Diamond bitch!
She had me "register" and periodically gave me the fishing call, but never had anything.
This is a B.S. story to P.R. herself. She's been in the temp business for donkey's years. Her specialty is sticking her boobs in your face.
"If you had two thousand documents coded by four doc reviewers, two of which are asian, one Nigerian and one Jamaican. How many are miscoded?"
Answer: none are miscoded, because only the smart Asians actually did any work while the Nigerian and Jamaican sat on their fat asses talking about how discriminated against they are.
"I worked with Michelle when she was at Strategic Legal. She was professional, albeit sometimes a bit slow in returning emails. So what! "
Hi, Michelle Vega!
(she's a big troller)
We should start writing letters to the judges on these cases saying that we have serious concerns with this sort of thing. Seriously, 1 Touro grad "supervising" 450 foreigners who have to be told what a Park Avenue building looks like? Is this some sort of joke? What a mockery of the American legal system!
The Chinese and Koreans are some of the hardest working people on these projects. Japanese are rare, as they are either on higher paying Japanese review projects, or doing something else altogether.
The whites are spoiled and self-entitled.
10:11 - DEAD ON
almost ANY foreigner will work harder than the self-entitled and spoiled whites. That's why they're all currently getting paid, while the whites (who clearly dominate this racist blog) bitch and moan all day. Wake up people.
Here we go again with Koreans claiming to be so smart and hard-working, and striving desperately to divert resentment elsewhere. What a revolting, sniveling group. I thought you would be starting your new job as a janitor or a fry cook at D.C. Biglaw by now?
Argh,
Me's see mutiny afoot on this ship. The negros be getting uppity.
and me's slant eyed crew be claiming they be hard working, shiver me timbers, that makes even this old see dog laught. Hardy harr har! The asians be too busy making mistakes and chirping noises to be doing any real work. Any good Captn will tell you the best workers be the whites. Plus they don't stink up the kitchen. Alas poor ole Bob can't be shanghaing them no mores, to much bad press. Tis better to stick with good jamaican breeding stock these multiply faster and earlier than most other. And Bob aint talking math neither mateee!
Argh, Land Ho, I be coming in with me hold heavy with document review stock fresh from the caribeean. Aye can't wait for my bottie.
argh.
All of the work has been outsourced to India, the economy won't recover for ten years, and Joan King has flown off to Belize with all of your money. Killself?
Suicide is a permanent solution to a thirty year problem. Don't do it!
I can't imagine a bigger sleaze than some temp alavemaster now plying useless incompetent wares in lovely ndia.
She's aint nothin but a low down dirty traitor. I'm sure she's received several glowing articles in the shitdump Touro magazine.
There's still plenty of work in NYC and only reckless morons would send legal work to India.
They aksed me last year. Oh Miss Polly will you go to India to supervize some dokuments? I was like shoot girl, you gotta be crazy. They don't got no Popeye's nor Payless. Girl you on crack?
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
In 1850, a German Economist said this:"The producer was motivated to use his man with the most modern machine to make the best and cheapest product possible to best his competition... now the producer discovered it's cheaper to replace the man and the machine with a woman and three children. The result of this new system shows in the scrap heap."
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I don't believe the U.S.A has a monopoly on talented people or good ideas. But, no matter how good or talented you may do your job; you can't compete with someone who can do your job O.K. at half the cost.
Sooner or later, the firms will see that the Africans, Indonesians, or whoever can do Doc Review for cheaper, then they will leave India. As Friedman said, "It's a race to the bottom (cost)." Both Water or labour costs do not flow up hill.
avoiding third tier law schools will solve all your problems..
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
My family immigrated to America to live the Nigerian dream. Living next to this stinky ghetto illegal trash.
Touro is so pathetic. the lame falculty prey on the few hot students. Sad. One prof ruined his marriage fucking a hot chick for years and years. His stupid ass french wife finally figured it out, and threatened to tak ethe kids to France if he saw her again. And, he is still flirting. Fucked up guy he is.... He looks like Ronald McDonald (Skinny one) hehehhehhehehehhe
Peter is an asshole womanizing prick. He so flirted with all th egirls in his class, and goes to lunch an dinner with the hot ones... poor wife!
Tour-hoe
If you go to Tou-hoe you deserve to have a shit life. Michelle has big boobs you don't.
Touro is the "SPECIAL ED" OF LAW SCHOOLS. The professors are a major major joke. Some of them are fucking the very few hot students behind their spouses' back, and others are fucking each other, and then there are the few that are just asexual. More importantly, they are a bunch of rejects. Anyone who goes to Touro Law is retarded for sure. Is Peter Mr Z? If so, I know what he does!
"Vega, who graduated from Touro College Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center,"
Wow so impressive Miss Vega!
How about a picket of the NYSBA?
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
Wow: the NYC document review market is still deader than a Touro student's brain.
Hope things improve soon.
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If I work for her to I get to suck on the titties and test drive the muff dive?
Peter is an asshole. he fucked this student for over a decade, and his stupid wife just turned her head. touro is like s home for idiots and whore infidel professors Mr Z is a class A cheater
Peter always wanted to review shit with me on his couch back when I was a student (Touro was in Huntington at the time) He made obvious advances, but I resisted. He is an ugly freak. I to;d my boyfriend at the time. He freaked out, and almost confronted him. I hear his wife is a stupid french broad who let's him get away with his infidelity.
Touro is fourth tier dopey Numbet 175 out of 185 NICE
Man Leave Mr Z alone. He is a good friend of mine. He sucks at the deed, but great with his tongue
wow, there are some pretty racist / xenophobic people on this listserv and thread. then again, i'm fine with outsourcing. if the US overprices things (uh, do you think that maybe it overprices its legal services? yup) and it's cheaper elsewhere, then free markets should allow going elsewhere.
I know Michelle and she's a nice person, so please stop calling her names - it's extremely rude and very easy to do when you're anonymous. I haven't worked with her directly so I can't vouch for her work ethic or work quality or any of that one way or the other, but she is a PERSON who I actually have met, and a friend of a friend, so let's please have some respect. you may disagree with what she is doing but come on, she took a job in an emerging area. get over it.
Put a gun to your fucking head like I did and pull the trigger.
Touro Falculty fucks there few hot students.... in many many many many ways BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Aw, fuck you! Fuck the lot of you! Fuck you all!"
I know her as well. They're talking her up like she's so wonderful, but she's one of the most selfish people out there. She did not leave to attend to a sick relative. Her husband left her. The only one she cares about is herself and her advancement. She's a deceitful person that would stab her best friend in the back to climb the ladder.
I have worked with Michelle at Mindcrest. She is dumb-ass!
ho ho ho.. I do know someone who works for someone in Mindcrest Pune.. Michelle is just a figure head. Fellow New Yorker's I hope you are aware who the biggest client of Mindcrest is... that honor goes to our Mayor. The conditions in Mindcrest India is horrible, sweatshop is a much better option. This poor semi slaves slog for hours and the moment they hit 5 yrs (that's when Indian laws force extra payouts) they are hit with a PIP (Performance Improvement Program) and kicked out, only to be hired a month later.. if you are in the right books. What a joke. I am happy with my overpriced stateside lawyer than a scum bag who defies all our country stands for.. FREEDOM.. and the real reason she is in India is all the hot guys she is having over there. If you have sources in Mindcrest, verify this. Its a shame what we have come down to.
10:49, you are right about the performance improvement plans, and to call Mindcrest a sweatshop would be alarmingly accurate. People do work for a salary comparable to the price of peanuts, which is why I don't understand why everyone is cribbing about it. As long as the work gets done...
Michelle Vega has been responsible for Mindcrest's growth, but she has reduced salaries of the employees (ahem, slaves) and brought in many managerial techniques to justify paying them lesser and lesser, while making them work longer. She seems like a nice person but has zero managerial skills and is mean, to say thew least.
Sadly as a Toruo Law grad I must admit the school is a piece of shit. It has done nothing to improve its lot except contiunally state "rankings don't matter."
I can assure you that if Touro's ranking suddenly went from TTT to top 50, they be publishing that info faster then they can take your tuition dollars.
Americans really dont get America any longer !!
Ask your senators what the US of A is committed to. Capitalism !!
To all the frogs-in-the-well, US of A make more money in India today over the all the corporates spending in India. So not sure what you are complaining about. The rest of the world IS subsiding your wasteful life !
Does she even know basics of law? Subject matter is 0. She just knows how to please her bosses in India n US which is part of her job n for which she is paid when they r in the city...tat's d reason she is still a part of the org which claims to be the best LPO. Balls to mgnmt n Vega.
Vega has dog brains!
I am stunned at what they have made that good for nothing Vega out to be....If this Indian company needed a "supervisor" they should have recruited one from the local talent pool.Why hire an ignorant condescending graduate from a useless law school....DISGUSTING
Vega is said to have had a very young boyfriend at Mindcrest.She got him promoted to team lead position jumping over all the tenured and employees.Guess what happened next...the guy left when better sense prevailed..Vega left high and dry..her legal expertise is less than an average first year law school student in a third rate law school in India...allow us educate her on her own laws
Are you referring to Touseef Khan...? Wht about the Managing Director of the Co.?
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