tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post4305790806056395506..comments2024-03-25T04:26:39.471-04:00Comments on Temporary Attorney: The Sweatshop Edition: Joan Kinghelpme123http://www.blogger.com/profile/09049497942793554030noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-59984259233017395502008-06-21T14:25:00.000-04:002008-06-21T14:25:00.000-04:00It's not just Joan King..there are lots of Joan Ki...It's not just Joan King..there are lots of Joan Kings out there. The truth is that the legal profession juggernaut is out of control you are sold a bullshit dream, that only the top 10 per cent will ever realize. The jobs are sweat shop circa 1890 because there is no union no controls and nobody gives a shit if a lawyer suffers, after all you should have known better....top 15 school or stay away...DO not bury your future in Non-dischargebale loans...Third rate schools equal third world job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-61507383247857286662008-01-27T01:05:00.000-05:002008-01-27T01:05:00.000-05:00Degrees don't get you jobs, intelligence does. Eve...Degrees don't get you jobs, intelligence does. Everyone knows there are idiots with advanced degrees, including JDs--probably in equal proportion to the idiots in the general population. In fact, many graduate from college, can't find a job (because they're not smart or creative enough) and go to grad school to try to compensate for their inabilities. Many of you legal temps probably went to law school because you couldn't find a job, and you found that a law degree couldn't solve your problems, because your unemployability had little to do with your degrees or lack thereof all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-89058002819382558502007-10-14T18:08:00.000-04:002007-10-14T18:08:00.000-04:00I do not think lawyers live a more dangerous life ...I do not think lawyers live a more dangerous life than cops. Lawyers are all stressed out. As are cops. Lawyers work a lot of overtime. As do cops. I can't say for sure which group is more stressed out, but I know for sure that cops face more dangers in the line of fire. Regardless of how rarely the typical cop engages in a firefight (it's probably very rare), it's still significantly higher than a lawyer's chance.<BR/><BR/>That being said, lawyers need a higher salary than cops in order to survive. For one thing, lawyers have incurred a whole lot more costs, both real costs and opportunity costs. While a temp attorney might not deserve to be paid more, they deserve to have paid less in acquiring an education that is basically worthless.<BR/><BR/>As for alternate careers, there's always the stumbling block of how to convince an employer that you won't leave to greener pastures. Even law school career counselors will tell you, it can be very hard to convince employers that you won't walk away for a law firm job if and when one materializes. And, if you leave out the J.D. from your resume (some MBAs leave it out to avoid appearing "overqualified") it can be seen as a lie of omission. So a J.D. is more of a trap in confining people only to the legal ranks. Not a complete trap, but a fairly effective one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-5299599440248219262007-10-10T22:22:00.000-04:002007-10-10T22:22:00.000-04:00She looks like an ugly transvestite.She looks like an ugly transvestite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-47476928134503452692007-10-10T15:14:00.000-04:002007-10-10T15:14:00.000-04:00leave law and go into teaching-that's my planleave law and go into teaching-that's my planAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-63357731404642719842007-10-10T12:03:00.000-04:002007-10-10T12:03:00.000-04:00Is it just me, or does Joan King look like a young...Is it just me, or does Joan King look like a young Dr. Ruth Westheimer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-37304095415077779962007-10-09T15:39:00.000-04:002007-10-09T15:39:00.000-04:00Gee, recentsocalgrad--with a winning argument like...Gee, recentsocalgrad--with a winning argument like "get off your high horse," why would you have to resort to "get over it"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-1294692014175405372007-10-09T14:17:00.000-04:002007-10-09T14:17:00.000-04:00Why complain when you bring home more than $1,000 ...Why complain when you bring home more than $1,000 per week after taxes. You are only average performers like me and could never get that cash each week at any other job that would have you. Maybe you'd like Insurance Defense instead, that's all average performers are good for. You did not go to Yale or Harvard, get over it.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely,<BR/><BR/>Two years in doc review hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-17496552273974371602007-10-09T12:57:00.000-04:002007-10-09T12:57:00.000-04:00Dear Schmucks- what were you smoking in college? ...Dear Schmucks- what were you smoking in college? Why do you think you can take out 100,000 in law school loans and not suffer the consequences? I say you all sue BLS. It will get you some legal experience and maybe some money back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-89635676384441671642007-10-09T12:41:00.000-04:002007-10-09T12:41:00.000-04:00RecentSoCalGrad said... If you think that being a ...RecentSoCalGrad said... <BR/><BR/>If you think that being a police officer is really no more dangerous than being a lawyer, there's not much I can do for you.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>And if you think the "dangerousness" of a profession determines it's rate of compensation, there's not much anyone can do for you. Clearly, convenience store clerks, whose job is stubstantially more dangerous than any cop's, don't make more than CEOs, whose jobs aren't dangerous at all--but who, on average, are the best paid workers in the labor market.<BR/><BR/>Again--you are ignoring the basic point that workers are not compensated based on criteria like "danger" or "worth." They are compensated on the basis of negotiating power--end of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-40930310261378307442007-10-09T09:41:00.000-04:002007-10-09T09:41:00.000-04:00We built this toilet on loser's dough! Great song ...We built this toilet on loser's dough! Great song parody! One for the ages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-91863845861737275162007-10-09T02:31:00.000-04:002007-10-09T02:31:00.000-04:00I love the animosity! Hey, losers, why didn't you ...I love the animosity! Hey, losers, why didn't you become cops or teachers if their jobs are so easy, and the pay is so terrific? I look forward (with beer in hand) to your humorous responses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-35484683355745015422007-10-09T00:43:00.000-04:002007-10-09T00:43:00.000-04:00What about teachers? My friend gets out of work a...What about teachers? My friend gets out of work at 3 o'clock and makes $70K a year with full benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-90062588310824036352007-10-08T23:36:00.000-04:002007-10-08T23:36:00.000-04:00Idiotic? Fuck you asshole, when the job requires y...Idiotic? Fuck you asshole, when the job requires you to work 80 hours a week that means you get fat, you get out of shape, your blood pressure goes up, and your risk of heart attack goes up 400% due to lack of sleep, those are the facts, if you are too fucking stupid to know them that is nobodys fault but your own, your ignorance about the facts that EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS is and is so obvious that it does not need to be states just shows what a bitch ass shit head you are, and it is you who does not know a goddamn fucking thing about logic you walking crap bag, eat a gun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-4844998873737191252007-10-08T21:09:00.000-04:002007-10-08T21:09:00.000-04:00Being a lawyer is tough on the liver.Being a lawyer is tough on the liver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-61947322451942255892007-10-08T20:25:00.000-04:002007-10-08T20:25:00.000-04:00"To become a lawyer means you risk your life becau..."To become a lawyer means you risk your life because you are REQUIRED to risk your health." I can't even begin to tell what an idiotic statement that is. Your total inability to think logically is the reason you have no real job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-76662424906836552012007-10-08T19:58:00.000-04:002007-10-08T19:58:00.000-04:00statistically their chances of dying on the job ar...statistically their chances of dying on the job are small. Being a cop is not even in the top 5 most dangerous professions. They enjoy high pay because they are unionized and politically active, its really all there is to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-3358064559105291812007-10-08T16:22:00.000-04:002007-10-08T16:22:00.000-04:00I am a recent law school graduate living in Southe...I am a recent law school graduate living in Southern California, not necessarily a USC grad.<BR/><BR/>If you think that being a police officer is really no more dangerous than being a lawyer, there's not much I can do for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-83391972493781782672007-10-08T15:38:00.000-04:002007-10-08T15:38:00.000-04:00recentsocalgrad said... Oh yes, being a lawyer is ...recentsocalgrad said... <BR/>Oh yes, being a lawyer is waaaay more dangerous than being a cop! And you're forced to be obese and abuse drugs!<BR/><BR/>Get off your high horse! That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard! Are you even a lawyer? With comments like that, I'd bet no.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Unless "socal" is a high school for slow children, you might want to stop embarrassing them by identifying yourself as one of their recent grads, particuarly when your sole argument here is "get off your high horse!"<BR/><BR/><BR/>Most cops in most jurisdictions are no more likely to be stabbed or shot as part of their regular job duties than any person walking down the street in the areas they patrol--most of whom aren't being paid to be there. <BR/><BR/>As was noted, cops are not well-paid because they are at such great "risk," but because they are one of the the only groups of workers whose right to unionize conservative dimwits like you are afraid to challenge, since your ideology teaches you that armies and police are the only thing that stand between you and the murdering hordes of "thugs" who live in homicidal envy of your well-earned "success." <BR/><BR/>You are an ignorant fool recentsocalgrad, and you have no greater understanding of how labor markets work than a monkey does of Euclidean geometry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-49688851978362833252007-10-08T01:04:00.000-04:002007-10-08T01:04:00.000-04:00Oh yes, being a lawyer is waaaay more dangerous th...Oh yes, being a lawyer is waaaay more dangerous than being a cop! And you're forced to be obese and abuse drugs!<BR/><BR/>Get off your high horse! That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard! Are you even a lawyer? With comments like that, I'd bet no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-48912626798309665272007-10-07T22:27:00.000-04:002007-10-07T22:27:00.000-04:00to the your not worht as much as a police officer,...to the your not worht as much as a police officer, I take issue with your post because lawyers have higher drug, alcholism divorce and sucide rates that police, they also have worse health and have higer rates of obesity. To become a lawyer means you risk your life because you are REQUIRED to risk your health. Lawyer are frequently REQUIRED to ignore everything else in their life other than the case and billable hours. I would gladly trade to become a cop, they get to stop after 20 years, except that in NY they start at 25k these days, but the good news is they get to shoot lawyers, and that alone is worth 30k.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-42426703873173617152007-10-07T19:28:00.000-04:002007-10-07T19:28:00.000-04:00The ignorance being displayed on this, and other b...The ignorance being displayed on this, and other blogs, is appalling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-59302321936212980562007-10-07T15:47:00.000-04:002007-10-07T15:47:00.000-04:00oh, please, I would bet stress induced heart attac...oh, please, I would bet stress induced heart attacks are killing more of us temps than thugs with guns are killing cops. They have a union which is why they make more than us. We have Denovo and the others ripping us off instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-34349775037694477442007-10-07T14:07:00.000-04:002007-10-07T14:07:00.000-04:00To the poster who thinks he or she is worth more t...To the poster who thinks he or she is worth more than a police officer: Trust me, you're not. You didn't want to risk being shot or stabbed as part of your regular job duties. I don't blame you, neither did I, that's why we both chose law school. If you look around, it's a lot harder to find someone willing to take a job that risks their own life, than a job that only requires you to wear a suit and write memos. Police are worth every cent and then some, so get off your high horse!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19584611.post-46802369504443192962007-10-07T12:47:00.000-04:002007-10-07T12:47:00.000-04:00You go, Tom!This is exactly how I feel. I am a tem...You go, Tom!<BR/><BR/>This is exactly how I feel. I am a temp, and I had to go to the doctor Monday. I have no employer-subsidized health insurance, and I pay through the nose to have a policy that covers basically nothing until I meet my $1,000 deductible. Then it pays 80% and I pay the other 20%.<BR/><BR/>The doctor wanted to run a test I considered unnecessary -- uh, a pregnancy test -- and I refused, saying I know I'm not pregnant -- I can't have children -- and that I can't afford to pay for an unnecessary test. She got mad and said she wouldn't write me a refill for a prescription if I didn't get the test. The problem I have is a history of stomach problems, high blood pressure, high tricylcerides, etc. due to STRESS from graduating without a decent job and HAVING TO PAY $100,000 in student loans back!!!!! I was practically crying as I said, "Come on, just write me a prescription, I know I'm NOT pregnant and I can't afford to pay for a test I know I don't need because I owe $100,000 in student loans," and she said in a cold tone, "You shouldn't skimp on health care." She then referred me to a specialist and said cattily, "You'll have to pay for another office visit if you want a prescription."<BR/><BR/>So to make a long story short, I missed time from work for nothing, shelled out money for nothing, have to see a specialist, will have to shell out more money, and will have to miss another day from work without pay because as a temp we do not get vacation pay or PTO. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and around this same exact time, my stupid attorney registration fees came due. I have been licensed in two states for three years so I owe about $500 in fees that I will have to charge on my credit card. Here, I am skimping and scraping with my health but still have to fork over $500 for two licenses I don't use because I keep thinking if I go in-active, I won't be able to get a job! I pay the same in fees as attorneys who make $160,000 a year and have firms to pick up the tab!!! How is this fair??? <BR/><BR/>I completely see why people kill themselves. It seems like once, you're stuck in this rut, there's no way out. And I agree, putting "contract attorney" or "temp" on your resume is like the kiss of death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com